Originally Posted by Mr. iNCREDIBLE
yeah the Chevy SS was a re-tool as well and look what happened to it..
according to Edmunds, the Audi is a re-tooled EOS..
you think GM is comparative to imports in the same price range? Really? you haven't done a lot of research on makes and models then.
My wife's fully loaded 2007 Camry Hybrid came with:
keyless touch entry
push button start
full leather
heated and cooled seats,
GPS with JL Audio with MP3 hookup and 4-disc changer 8-speakers
Bluetooth hands free
HID headlights
LED tail lights
Sunroof
Backup Camera and Backup Sensors.
Heated Outside Mirrors
Auto Dim Driver and inside mirror
Memory seat
6 way power drivers and 4 way power passenger seat
power windows with 4-door Auto up/down
Homelink
Alarm/Security
Cruise Control
dual zone auto control HVAC
Tilt/Telescope Steering wheel with radio and Bluetooth phone controls
240 combined HP (gas/electric) with 35 city/ 31 highway MPG.
we paid $31,000 out the door tax/license/and 100K warranty. MSRP was $26,200
An equally equipped 2007 Chevy Impala LTZ for 26,435 MSRP, lacks the following:
Keyless touch entry (not offered)
push button start (not offered)
only has 6 not 8 speakers (8 speakers is $495 add on)
no MP3 ($195 add on)
no Bluetooth hands free (not offered)
no HID headlights (not offered)
no leather ($1,195 add on)
no cooled seats (not offered)
no heated mirrors ($230 add on)
no Memory Seats (not available)
233 hp v6 with 18mpg city / 27 mpg highway
These 2 vehicles are direct competitors. and while I am quoting 2007, not much has changed in the past 8 years.
As a matter of fact a quick comparison on autoblog.com shows that a similarly equipped 2014 Impala LTZ v6 costs $5,600 more than a Camry XLE V6 and it still lacks
cooled seats
keyless touch entry (not available)
push button start (not available)
blind spot monitor
backup camera
Tilt/Telecope Steering
Memory Seats
Homelink
Heated outside mirrors.
all of which can be added for an addition $2,135
making the cost difference between a similar equipped Camry and Impala over $7,500.
Now grant it is still a Camry, and I wouldn't be caught dead owning or driving one (wife likes them not me). The fact still remains that GM cars are far more expensive with similar options to their import counterparts and several key options that people are looking for today GM doesn't even offer.
GM's technology is several years behind the rest of the world and they nickel and dime you to death with option packages. Can't get this without getting that, even if you don't want it..
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I personally have never owned and will probably never own an import, I have always only ever purchased American made, GM, Ford, and Chrysler. But I am not so naïve to think that Americans cars even come close to being the better back for the buck options wise. I have always known they come up short.
However for me there are 2 things I consider highly over that, but I am a minority in this thinking:
1. American styling has always been a grade above most imports, most (especially Japanese) imports are bland and they all look the same, However GM is starting to head that way, a lot of the Chevy and Buick Lineup look like the Toyota and Nissan lineup, thankfully Cadillac is still one of a kind if you like the strong angular look.
2. I won't give my money to a non-American car maker, even if a Toyota or Honda is built in America, at the end of the sale, that money goes to their home countries banks and investments, that money does not get recycled back into American banks. Go look up the money trial online if you question me, I have..
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All that being said, I love my Camaro, I wouldn't trade it for anything at this point in time, but I still know that it isn't the most optioned, nor the fastest thing on the road, but it does have 1 important quality.. and that is I like it, and that's all that matters....
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