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Originally Posted by cal45
You buy what you like, I'll buy what I like. No need to bash.
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Not bashing, merely stating facts.
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Originally Posted by cal45
Once the car hits the streets, we will all see a wide range of numbers - and mine will be first hand, not what I've read from someone testing a pre production car that has been passed around for all to beat. The Hellcat did Dyno 635 RWHP/592 TQ...not shabby numbers at all and that is with 0 after market mods.
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The Challengers deficiency has never been power. It's the platform and weight. Neither of which was addressed in the Hellcat. From people that have actually driven the car, it is clear, they spent 90% of the development dollars between the front struts.
The long, wide coupe still has a lot of body to be piloted from corner to corner on the really tight sections of the road, but the truth is that it responded with neutrality and quickness at a moderate pace. "Nimble" wasn't the word that sprung to mind after turning more than 100 miles on public streets, but "confident" would be a fair one...Even with plenty of grip available most of the time, there's so much weight constantly desirous of changing direction that hustling the Dodge in the twisty bits left me either too slow or out of sorts upon exit. The steering is quick enough, but numb, which didn't help speed me up, either.
-Autoblog
The car leans heavily as we enter turns, but it's not sloppy...But yeah, man, it drives like a muscle car. It's heavy and it swings through corners with the leading edge of the bulging hood leaning low. Forget delicate work: That would be like whittling with a pole axe.
-Automobile Magazine
While the Camaro behaves like a sports car, the Challenger pretends to be nothing else than a straight-line dragster, and when you toss a corner its way it can be a handful. As associate editor Scott Evans put it, the Hellcat handles "just like a Challenger. Understeer into the corner, oversteer out."
-MotorTrend
The Challenger gets a lot of grief for its weight, and at 4,449 pounds, the 2015 Challenger is a heavy car. You can feel this while driving, it’s a pleasant thing on the highway, giving the car a solid, smooth ride, even in the firmest “Track” mode setting of the three-way adjustable suspension. In corners, the heft of the car is noticeable, especially if you’re used to a lighter machine
-Hot Rod Magazine
Sadly, the Hellcat sits, too. "Feels like I'm in an SUV," Webster grumbles.
-Road&Track
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Originally Posted by cal45
I'm choosing the 8 spd automatic and those times look fine to me as it will be my daily driver. I have no interest in beating the car up at the track every weekend. I'll leave that to the young guys to bump their chests for.
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Good for you. I hope you enjoy it. It's a fine cruiser.
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Originally Posted by Alain
Dude's talking about warranties !! That's pretty funny. If you don't like the car don't put it down. Just say it isn't for you. I think its comical that some people resort to commenting on things like warranties to put the car down. .
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"Dude's" also talking about style, luxury, balance, engagement, comfort, reliability, and track performance, none of which you are able to comment on? If I'm paying $60,000+ for a performance car, I might expect a little more than straight-line acceleration.
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Originally Posted by Alain
If you're not excited about an off the showroom floor muscle car with 700+ horses than you ain't no car guy.
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What's so special about it being "off the showroom floor" with 700hp? Is it because it has...wait for it...a warranty!?
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Originally Posted by newmoon
Water aerobics exercises for seniors now available at your local YMCA, this message is brought to you by the all-new 2015 Cadillac CTSV the preferred sport sedan for the 75 and older crowd!
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Do you even know the average age of a V owner? Several polls on V forums have pegged the average age at 42. I'm 34. Would you like to talk about the average age of a Challenger owner, or better yet a $60,000+ Challenger owner? I expect more from you than this drivel.