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Originally Posted by MEDISIN

So you bought a Challenger to get attention? Nearly 240,000 Challengers on the road in the U.S. - not exactly a rare site.



Better than which Camaro? By what measure? The ZL1 has been around since 2012. Where has Dodge been?



ZF transmissions are used in MANY cars, I have one in my LR and it's swell. It is evident Dodge owners have been suffering with the 5-speed slushbox for so long they are overjoyed...by a modern transmission. Shaker hood, tail lights, grill are cosmetic bits. The interior, meh, it's a pony car, no one shops pony cars for their interiors unless you have special needs. Basically it boils down to a perceived value for you and the SRT core models were still not seen as a value, even though that was the entire reason for their existence. Interesting.



The fact that it is no longer offered makes me think it was discontinued. They are rare because they didn't sell. Of course they make more on the more expensive SRT. This is why I am asking what about the R/T shatpack will lead to sales where the SRT bore models failed? In your opinion it is the extra three cogs, cosmetic bits and refreshed interior at a slight discount. I hope you're right but it's going to upset 07-SRT as there will be too many on the streets and he'll have to buy a BRZ.



It's the amusing perceptions of Mopar fans that keeps bringing me back. Saying 700hp and 8 speeds to a Dodge fan is like shining a laser pointer in front of a cat. They become obsessed with it even though it is beyond the reach of 99.99% of them. Based on the reviews so far it appears Dodge has dumped a big heavy powertrain in an outdated platform. At least Hemi Dave likes it with his subject assessment above. In my opinion the retro-muscle car theme is played out. The Camaro and Mustang have moved to create broad appeal with lighter, more engaging platforms. I thought the 'Cuda was supposed to move in this direction but last I heard the project was pushed back to 2018. Disappointing to say the least.

The only reasoning I can think of is that MEDISIN must have had his CTSV’s A!s Handed to it by a 392 SRT Challenger and he just can’t get over it. I mean if I had to drive around in a car associated with AARP and the morning YMCA water aerobics class I’d be bitter too.