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Originally Posted by 07-SRT

Sales are great when you want to be common....One of the reasons my Mustang is gone, every other car is a Mustang, I also see Camaros everyday, not as much as the Mustang around here...That is what I like about my SRT....The SRT always gets more attention than my Camaro.... jmo, but I would rather have a car that is less seen...

So you bought a Challenger to get attention? Nearly 240,000 Challengers on the road in the U.S. - not exactly a rare site.

Originally Posted by macwest

Either you don't read peoples complete post or you are just butt hurt that in this round the challenger is better then the camaro. or maybe both but I did not just say interior.

Better than which Camaro? By what measure? The ZL1 has been around since 2012. Where has Dodge been?

Originally Posted by DDoug

Damn, why so childish and insulting?

Whelp, I'm one of them fools who's gonna drop on the R/T Scat Pack. Not you specifically, peeps in general.

-Transmission - 8 speed - the same one that goes in the BMW's. Great trans, fast, fast shifting, and makes the car much more efficient, 25 mpg freeway. First automatic car I have owned since '93.
-Shaker hood - If I gotta explain, you're a lost cause.
-Much happier with grill and especially taillights.
-Interior, yeah some of us old guys like nice interiors, I would think a guy with a Caddy would get that
-Yep, less money, $2000 less than the core - with a shaker?? YESSSS!!!
-I've wanted one for 5 years, but if I don't see (what I perceive) as a good value, I won't buy it. This hits my value button.

ZF transmissions are used in MANY cars, I have one in my LR and it's swell. It is evident Dodge owners have been suffering with the 5-speed slushbox for so long they are overjoyed...by a modern transmission. Shaker hood, tail lights, grill are cosmetic bits. The interior, meh, it's a pony car, no one shops pony cars for their interiors unless you have special needs. Basically it boils down to a perceived value for you and the SRT core models were still not seen as a value, even though that was the entire reason for their existence. Interesting.

Originally Posted by DDoug

What makes you think the Core was discontinued? It is now, but you can't order '14's now. They are rare, partly because Dealers don't order them for the lots, they make more money on the regular SRT8. It's also easier to have an regular SRT8 to display and let people sit in. SRT's, in general, are rare. The dealer I deal with can - easily - sell every one they get. It's been 6 months since a SRT8 Grand Cherokee has shown up, and they have orders in for them.

The fact that it is no longer offered makes me think it was discontinued. They are rare because they didn't sell. Of course they make more on the more expensive SRT. This is why I am asking what about the R/T shatpack will lead to sales where the SRT bore models failed? In your opinion it is the extra three cogs, cosmetic bits and refreshed interior at a slight discount. I hope you're right but it's going to upset 07-SRT as there will be too many on the streets and he'll have to buy a BRZ.

Originally Posted by motorhead

It doesn't seem that way with all the post you have in this thread. Unless you're just fishing for an argument.

It's the amusing perceptions of Mopar fans that keeps bringing me back. Saying 700hp and 8 speeds to a Dodge fan is like shining a laser pointer in front of a cat. They become obsessed with it even though it is beyond the reach of 99.99% of them. Based on the reviews so far it appears Dodge has dumped a big heavy powertrain in an outdated platform. At least Hemi Dave likes it with his subject assessment above. In my opinion the retro-muscle car theme is played out. The Camaro and Mustang have moved to create broad appeal with lighter, more engaging platforms. I thought the 'Cuda was supposed to move in this direction but last I heard the project was pushed back to 2018. Disappointing to say the least.