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Originally Posted by Number 3
You missed my point. GM is parroting the BMW pricing strategies.
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We're just looking at it differently. Cadillac doesn't offer bare-bones, stripped out base cars then charge thousands for things like keyless entry and other features most manufacturers offer at no cost. If by parroting you mean Cadillac charges more for their performance models than non-performance models, then I ask, who doesn't?
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Originally Posted by Number 3
If you look at the CTS V-sport with the 3.6 TT that is a low 60's pricepoint. Now put that in an ATS with the higher performance chassis, brakes etc. and you are going to be low (hopefully) to mid 60's.
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The CTS Vsport starts at $59,995. The CTS is also one class size larger than the ATS and costs $10,000 more than the ATS equipped with the same engine. So add extra for the bigger brakes, suspension for the V model then subtract $10,000 for the size difference and you arrive at my $55,000 - $60,000 estimate.
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Originally Posted by Number 3
As for the CTS-V, take the V-sport loaded and you have a $71,000 car today. Now add the LT4 and performance equipment and you are at $90,000 easily. I just don't see GM pricing the CTS-V with any overlap with a CTS V-sport. The V today is fully loaded and I expect the future car to be as well.
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That's the thing, I don't HAVE to buy a fully loaded Vsport. The BMW 550 and M5 pricing overlaps, as does the E550 and E63 AMG, and the A6 and S6, all depending on options. Which is why I am only speaking in terms of base price. The V isn't
fully loaded. Heck, mine had $10,000 in options over the base price.
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The prices you have are nearly base. You can easily option an ATS to well over $50,000 (just price one out over $56,000 before the $3,000 rebate) and a CTS goes well above $59,995 optioned up (just priced one at $66,000 before incentives).
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I just don't understand your obsession with options. I am comparing base prices to base prices. There are
way too many variables once you throw options into the equation. You may want them, I may not. Then factor in incentives and actual transaction prices of which Cadillac is considerably lower than competitors as a % under MSRP.