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Old 06-30-2014, 07:40 PM   #235
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Originally Posted by MEDISIN View Post
Except that it IS a rare occurrence. This is the user generated "fast list" from http://www.challengertalk.com/forums...-sticky-63213/



Notice there are all of 6 people who have achieved sub-12.6 times. Out of the tens of thousands of 392 Challengers roaming the streets, 6 have posted times in this range. Notice how most of these times are 12.6 or higher? In fact, the average time from the average driver at Challengertalk is 12.98 @ 109.4mph which makes it a high 12's car.



SRT8Tech 12.253@113.86 1.907 60' 392 A5 stock

Capo 12.395@12.395 1.906 60' 392 A5 Stock

newmoon 12.464@112.00 1.929 60' 392 A5 stock (Error on MPH on time slip)

KyHemiRT 12.517@110.84 1.849 60' 392 A5 stock

SparkChicken 12.566@111.76 1.913 60' 392 A5 stock

Kakdiesel1 12.593@113.71 2.070 60' 392 A5 stock

Flying Dutchman 12.630@111.92 2.033 60' A5 stock

bskylerj 12.650@110.44 1.904 60' 392 A5 stock

555ss 12.685@109.16 1.878 60' 392 M6 Stock

DonP 12.696@110.06 1.912 60' 392 A5 stock

Red Barron 12.744@109.92 2.021 60' M6 Stock

hemi420 12.769@113.35 1.933 60' 392 M6 stock

MrBohica 12.789@115.09 2.1011 60' 392 stock

CrankCase 12.805@109.05 2.007 60' M6 stock

rayzazoo 12.847@109.89 1.976 60' 392 A5 stock

GodsRodsHEMI 12.911@110.33 2.059 60' 392 A5 stock

Hoopester 12.974@112.09 2.059 60' 392 M6 stock

Madcoder 13.013@107.22 2.174 60' 392 A5 stock

Whisky Tango Foxtrot! 13.093@109.31 2.121 60' 392 M6 Stock

Mayra 13.220@107.30 2.161 60' 392 A5 stock

Litos 13.268@106.58 2.119 60' 392 A5 stock

rmeaux 13.320@108.56 2.228 60' 392 M6 stock

SRT8PWR 13.393@108.47 2.272 60' 392 M6 Stock

kwoolums67 13.709@102.79 2.079 60' 392 Stock

AZZKIKR 13.730@102.62 2.146 60' M6 382 Stock

B5Classic 14.350@102.00 2.454 60' 392 M6 Stock









Above you can see the average Joe times from the 392 Challenger. Let's compare that to what magazine reviews achieved.



C&D: 0-60 in 4.5, 12.9 1/4mile at 114mph, 4203lbs

MotorTrend: 0-60 in 4.6, 13.0 1/4mile at 111.3mph, 4260lbs

Edmunds: 0-60 in 4.7, 12.9 1/4mile at 111.0mph, 4257lbs

Edmunds: 0-60 in 4.5, 12.6 1/4mile at 112.1mph, 4257lbs



This gives us an average of 0-60 in 4.6; 12.85 @ 112.1 mph for the 392 Challenger.



So to recap...

Average fast time 392 owners: 12.98 @ 109.4 mph

Average fast time 392 magazines: 12.85 @ 112.1 mph



Now lets look at the Z/28 reviews.



Car&Driver: 0-60: 4.4 sec; 1/4 mile: 12.7 @ 116mph

MotorTrend: 0-60: 4.0 sec; 1/4 mile: 12.3 @ 117.2mph

Road&Track: 0-60: 4.0 sec; 1/4 mile: 12.2 @ 118mph

Automobile: 0-60: 4.0 sec; 1/4 mile: 12.3 @ 117mph



This gives us an average of 0-60 in 4.1; 12.38 @ 117.0 mph for the Z/28.



Let me put these side by side so you can see why these cars are not in the same league. Keep in mind, the Z/28 is NOT built for drag racing.



SRT8: 0-60 in 4.6; 12.85 @ 112.1 mph

Z/28: 0-60 in 4.1; 12.38 @ 117.0 mph







But they're NOT close at all. The biggest difference between these cars is the Challenger's weight, not power, as the 392 is making excellent power.



Z/28 Dyno: 455hp/420ft-lbs

SRT8 Dyno: 452hp/443ft-lbs









That video is SRT8Tech's run. What you can't see is his drag radials and stripped interior



Sure, there are a handful of hero times by good drivers out there for ALL cars.



Mustang 5.0 bone stock

Pure Stock---------------- 1.89 - 12.22 @ 115.18

SicShelby09 ---------------1.76 - 12.51 @ 111

mrfiveoh-------------------1.97 - 12.57 @ 112.49



Camaro SS bone stock

nhra stocker---------------1.97 - 12.588 @ 110.30

2quik----------------------1.95 - 12.615 @ 111.60

blufin----------------------1.93 - 12.618 @ 110.75



ZL1 bone stock

BADASSBU-----------------1.82 - 11.717 @ 117.61

tnspd----------------------1.79 - 11.763 @ 118.76

Lake End-------------------2.03 - 11.988 @ 120.42



These are certainly NOT average.

Wow.

10's of thousands of 392's?? Highly doubt it.

Every drag racer isnt a member on forums.

Just bc the Z28 isnt a "drag car" doesnt mean you can use that as an excuse for shitty drag times. The GTR isnt a drag car either but it shits and gets. The Z28 has 305 RACE tires. I doubt its having a hard time hooking up with a stock LS7. I promise you the 392 has a harder time with its crap 255 tires.

Again ive already said i know it was built for the strip BUT im personally comparing strip perf. I stated that in strip perf the Z28 & 392 is close and damn sure not leagues apart. At most its .5 seconds and 5mph. Thats not leagues my friend. Thats a drivers race. One mistake and either could win. One great light and the 392 can take it. I understand you wanting them to be leagues apart considering price,hp, and weight. Its just not the case. Now on a road course the 392 shouldnt even insert the key to listen to the radio much less race it. They're not even playing the same sport much less the same league.

Now. The 15 392 will run what the z28 runs in the 1/4 and thats pretty pathetic.

The z28 & zl1 should both be consistent 11sec bone stock cars but they arent

Again if dodge is advertising the 392 as the same time the ZL1 gets then the HELL CAT with at least 150 more hp is going to literally give it hell.


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