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Old 06-15-2014, 04:38 PM   #151
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The Cadillac ATS is about the same size as a Chevy Cruze. It is verrrry small. I now have an SS in the garage and it dwarfs the little thing. Even the Audi S4 was visibly larger than the ATS.

Had a CTS loaner home over night last week. It also makes the ATS look small.

Get in one and drive it. It is a wonderful car. But it is a small car.

Can't compare wheel base on a FWD vs RWD car due to the front overhang, but width, the ATS is about 1/2 wider than the Cruze. The CTS is a full inch wider than the ATS. That doesn't seem like much, but it is a huge difference.

I know where your heart is KMPrenger but realistically you don't have a V8 to compare to. The closest you have is a CTS TT V6.

A key comparator will be when we see weights for the ATS coupe. Up or down to the sedan. That will help when we see if there is a weight saving by eliminating the rear doors vs. the structure required in a coupe for side impact. Also have to keep in mind that if you look at the CTS as a comparator for weight, it has aluminum doors that the ATS doesn't. That is easily 100 pounds. It is possible but not likely a future Camaro would have aluminum doors. Just too expensive.
Well here you come with all your logic and stuff breaking my heart. lol. kidding.

Well, I guess I'll just say that I have faith. Alpha was made to be a lighter weight, scalable, stiff and high performance chassis. 6th gen Camaro may not end up being ATS sized, but then again I don't see why it needs to be CTS sized. The 5th gen is plenty big already. I love the look of the Challenger, but jeebus when I see one in person it just looks huge. Can't see Chevrolet going in that direction. Camaro may not end up matching or beating the 15' GT's 3,700ish + lb weight, but I have faith it will be in the ball park.

Rumors say we may find out in 6 months or so.
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