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Originally Posted by KMPrenger
Lots of people like to say they think the ATS is a small car...too small. But I disagree. Looking at dimensions vs the current Camaro, its not much smaller at all.
I see an ATS on the road every now and then and they look like a good size to me. I mean for crying out loud, if they can make it a four door car, then its big enough to be a damn Camaro! Just lengthen the hood a bit, decrease rear seat room a bit, give it longer doors for a coupe and your done.
I can see why the Mustang went up in weight a bit....the prior car is riding on an old chassis, and didn't have IRS. Now that the chassis has been brought up to new standards, with better safety, and IRS, the fact that it gained some weight while staying the same size is perfectly acceptable in my mind, and it still weighs a good amount less than the current Camaro.
The current Camaro already has IRS, and was a safer, more rigid/modern platform (Zeta). There is absolutely no reason in my mind that that the next gen Camaro shouldn't lose some weight. I would expect at minimum, 100 lbs, but I think even 200 lbs is totally realistic and is closer to where it will end up. Going much more than that might be pushing it.
Would be a huge fail if it didn't lose weight. In the end, I'd guess it to be very similar where the Mustang is at now, if not a tad under.
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The Cadillac ATS is about the same size as a Chevy Cruze. It is verrrry small. I now have an SS in the garage and it dwarfs the little thing. Even the Audi S4 was visibly larger than the ATS.
Had a CTS loaner home over night last week. It also makes the ATS look small.
Get in one and drive it. It is a wonderful car. But it is a small car.
Can't compare wheel base on a FWD vs RWD car due to the front overhang, but width, the ATS is about 1/2 wider than the Cruze. The CTS is a full inch wider than the ATS. That doesn't seem like much, but it is a huge difference.
I know where your heart is KMPrenger but realistically you don't have a V8 to compare to. The closest you have is a CTS TT V6.
A key comparator will be when we see weights for the ATS coupe. Up or down to the sedan. That will help when we see if there is a weight saving by eliminating the rear doors vs. the structure required in a coupe for side impact. Also have to keep in mind that if you look at the CTS as a comparator for weight, it has aluminum doors that the ATS doesn't. That is easily 100 pounds. It is possible but not likely a future Camaro would have aluminum doors. Just too expensive.