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Old 05-19-2014, 05:47 PM   #107
Rhyder


 
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Originally Posted by MLL67RSSS View Post
Not condoning GM's response, or lack thereof, to the issue. But here are the facts for many of the 13 fatalities cited in the Federal investigation.

Star-Telegram Ed Wallace article:

http://www.star-telegram.com/2014/04...lity.html?rh=1

"Amber Marie Rose, 16, has a fight with her boyfriend at a party. Intoxicated, not wearing a seatbelt, she tears off doing 69 mph in a residential neighborhood, on the wrong side of the road — until she enters the cul-de-sac. She slams into a driveway curb and then into a tree.

Megan Phillips is driving at 71 mph on a rural Wisconsin road. She drifts off road and onto a driveway curb and goes airborne for 59 feet before crashing into a utility box and trees, killing her two unbelted passengers. Interestingly, Phillips blamed herself for the accident, until she heard about the recall. (If a non-running car had caused the accident, wouldn’t she said that from day one?)

Hasayan Chansuthus of Nashville, after drinking with her boyfriend, has a blood alcohol content of .19; driving 70 mph on the Interstate in the rain, she sideswipes a VW, sending her off the freeway into a tree.

Joey Harding, 19, drinking with friends in his mother’s garage, borrows his friend’s Cobalt at 3 in the morning. His blood alcohol content .12, he’s doing 85 in a 45mph zone with predictable results.

Ryan Quigley, 23, leaves a party with friends on a rural New York road in winter weather conditions; sliding down an embankment at 1 a.m., he ends up in the stream below. New York State Police blame the accident on road conditions, excessive speed and alcohol. Infuriated, local police arrest the three people who threw that party for serving alcohol to minors.

Christopher Hamberg, 18, Clearlake, Texas, driving on NASA Parkway at 4:30 in the morning, slams up against the median and rolls the Cobalt. Local police say he was doing only 45 mph, but it’s almost impossible to believe that’s fast enough to roll a car. (The reason I suggested strongly that Congress needs the Black Box data.) No word on alcohol in that case, but we do know he was not wearing a seatbelt.

Kelly Ruddy, 21, enters I-81 at an excessive speed, according to local police, wearing no seatbelt, and simply loses control of the vehicle.

Brooke Melton, 29, hydroplaning on a Georgia road in the rain, loses control of her vehicle.

These are seven of the high-profile media cases resulting in 10 fatalities, and only Brooke Melton was over 25 years old. In case you weren’t counting, at least four, possibly more, involved intoxication.


All seven involved high rates of speed, or unsafe speeds given the road conditions. At least seven weren’t wearing seatbelts, and at least five slammed into cars, medians or driveway curbs. Six happened at night — four verified as being after midnight.

[B]Here’s the point: If all seven of these accidents involved excessive speed, why does anyone think the ignition key had already fallen into the Accessory position — which would have turned the engine off? You can’t drive 69, 70, 71 or 85 mph, or roll your car, with the engine off: It’s got to be running. Which means there’s a reasonable possibility in the majority of these cases that what moved the ignition from Run to Accessory was the extreme physical impact of the accidents."

I do however think you can roll a car at 45MPH with the right, or should I say "wrong" conditions.

And with all the thread moves around here, still wondering why this "doesn't involve Camaros" thread is in the 5th gen Camaro general discussion forum.
I don't give a rats rear what other issues influenced the death or injury...if a known defect on a vehicle was even one of them then the company is liable....whos to say that the car losing control wasn't the final piece that caused the death, that if that hadn't happened they wouldn't of recovered?

I also think its lousy reporting and the reporter is pretty obviously bought and paid for.......

I mean unless they can prove that every single death and injury...every single one....was conclusively not caused by the car going out of control then they should get hammered....it doesn't matter if 99% of the cases get thrown out...if there's one single instance that is to much.....anything else, including this article, is simple misdirection and its criminal......

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