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Rhyder · 05-18-2014, 10:07 PM

I think there's definitely some over reaction on this but there's also grounds for much of the fining etc going on. I figure when its all said and done and the spin doctors are through, it will be somewhere in the middle. GM was negligent, but not to the degree it appears at this time.

I'm OK with the over reaction though. I'm tired of hearing about car companies doing math and figuring this many recalls will cost x, but if we don't recall this many people might die and the lawsuits if they can prove it will only cost y, so its cheaper to take a chance and not do the recall. Its like the airlines not fixing their planes because the death notes will be less if the plane crashes and maybe the plane wont crash and it wont cost them anything. Or the drug companies putting out drugs they know will kill people over time because they figure they will make 16 billion on it before people start dying and then simply have to stop selling it and pay 8 billion in fines and lawsuits, making 8 billion in profit.I'm disgusted with that mentality.

Bring the hammer down on GM, smash them good, cost them a bundle. Do the same to Ford next week if they have a failure they knew about and knew it could cause deaths and chose not to recall. Crush Pfizer next time they put a drug out that's not fully tested or they knew had side affects that they downplayed or hid. Stop this gambling with lives or the subtraction method they come up with where they decide they will make more money ignoring the problem no matter the potential cost in lives or health.

They need to make these companies pay so much that its actually cheaper to fix the problem before its a problem, so expensive they don't even bother doing the cost vs penalty studies any more.

I know other companies have done it before, but we have to start somewhere and GM is in the barrel at this moment. If it crushes GM into non existence, that's a harsh and troubling thing, but tomorrow you wont see Ford not doing a recall, you wont see Pfizer ignoring the testing data...were not talking about a mistake, or something unforeseen happening....were talking about things the company knew were dangerous and potentially life threatening, and was infinity correctable, and for whatever reason actively choose to hide and ignore......isn't human life and the moral ethical thing to do worth it?

05-18-2014, 10:07 PM	#82
Rhyder Drives: 2012 45 Anniversary Vert Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,511	I think there's definitely some over reaction on this but there's also grounds for much of the fining etc going on. I figure when its all said and done and the spin doctors are through, it will be somewhere in the middle. GM was negligent, but not to the degree it appears at this time. I'm OK with the over reaction though. I'm tired of hearing about car companies doing math and figuring this many recalls will cost x, but if we don't recall this many people might die and the lawsuits if they can prove it will only cost y, so its cheaper to take a chance and not do the recall. Its like the airlines not fixing their planes because the death notes will be less if the plane crashes and maybe the plane wont crash and it wont cost them anything. Or the drug companies putting out drugs they know will kill people over time because they figure they will make 16 billion on it before people start dying and then simply have to stop selling it and pay 8 billion in fines and lawsuits, making 8 billion in profit.I'm disgusted with that mentality. Bring the hammer down on GM, smash them good, cost them a bundle. Do the same to Ford next week if they have a failure they knew about and knew it could cause deaths and chose not to recall. Crush Pfizer next time they put a drug out that's not fully tested or they knew had side affects that they downplayed or hid. Stop this gambling with lives or the subtraction method they come up with where they decide they will make more money ignoring the problem no matter the potential cost in lives or health. They need to make these companies pay so much that its actually cheaper to fix the problem before its a problem, so expensive they don't even bother doing the cost vs penalty studies any more. I know other companies have done it before, but we have to start somewhere and GM is in the barrel at this moment. If it crushes GM into non existence, that's a harsh and troubling thing, but tomorrow you wont see Ford not doing a recall, you wont see Pfizer ignoring the testing data...were not talking about a mistake, or something unforeseen happening....were talking about things the company knew were dangerous and potentially life threatening, and was infinity correctable, and for whatever reason actively choose to hide and ignore......isn't human life and the moral ethical thing to do worth it?