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Originally Posted by CFD
I'm somewhat surprised at this statement because in general most of the info REPEATED here is quite accurate.
I also don't agree with IIFYM. Generally speaking, if you know your TDE or calculate your caloric needs, using basic formulas for protein and fat intake the remaining cals will be from carbs and will fit into the plan, the problem with IIFYM you can get your protein from steak and the rest of your cals from hostess twinkies, this fits IIFYM, lets's see how that works out for you.. You can eat the things you enjoy but now and then. If a 300lb guy asks how to eat to loose weight you wouldn't tell him you can eat pizza, ice cream, donut's or what ever else got him to 300lbs.
Calorie tapering, cycling and nutrient timing have a lot of science behind them. Will they be the fail all if you don't practice it? No, but if there is any advantage to drinking a pre-workout shake and eating a high protein starchy carb meal post workout I'll make the adjustment.
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that is why i said somewhere in this thread the only problem with IIFYM is fiber, If you get your fiber you are good to go.
Fiber would be a problem because you'd be getting more fast releasing carbs lacking fiber, opposed to complex carbs with fiber (ex. brown rice)
By the way I don't want anyone to think IIFYM'ers only eat crap. We eat MOSTLY bro foods, or what society thinks of when they think healthy.
Ex
Proteins
Chicken, Beef, Turkey, Pork
Carbs
WW bread, rice, grains, oatmeal
Fats
Olive oil, fatty fish, nuts
My point I want to get across is yes eat the foods you love, there should be no food groups off limit. Eat at a 70/30 or 80/20 clean/foods you would put off limit. You can do this every day as long as your fiber is in check for digestive reasons....
Conclusion
Get to your protein minimums (1g per pound)
Get to your Fat minimums
Get to your fiber minimums
fill your calories with whatever you want and you can still lose weight. Some people may say they don't feel as good when they eat "bad" foods to fill their calories. Most of this is mental I believe, because society told you this is a no no to NEVER eat cake you can't possibly lose weight if you eat cake....thus you "feel fat"
Preworkout nutrition is simply up to you, some feel better with carbs an hour before some feel better fasted.....whatever you feel better with is what you should do. pre workout nutrition does nothing but cancel the urgency of getting to the gym
Also regarding the "post workout window"
http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/5
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post678321011