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Originally Posted by MBS
Al already has been on record that as long as he is the chief engineer of the Camaro there will never be a 4 banger in it !
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Don't get me wrong - Al is one of my inspirations for my career at General Motors and I have nothing but respect for him. But I question whether or not he'll be overruled and we'll see a 4 banger.
I will tell you that I had an ATS 2.0L Turbo AWD a couple of weeks ago. Everyone who drove it swore up and down it was "at least" the LFX engine because it took off like a rocket and was VERY peppy.
I don't see having a 2.0L Turbo option as a bad thing - especially making the assumption that the Camaro will hopefully be a few pounds lighter than the ATS because it won't have as much "plush-ness" to it. As long as it's just one of many engine options which include v6s and v8s, it won't hurt - and GM definitely isn't taking the v8 option away from the Camaro.
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Originally Posted by Cheveey57
I for one don't want all those extra sensors and auto-matic braking on a sports car. If I want all that glitz I'll buy a Caddy.
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Agreed. While it was nice to drive an ATS which had heated seats, heated steering wheel, HUD, reverse camera, lane-change sensors (which I immediately turned off because it was making my ass vibrate the whole way home... apparently I ride the left shoulder's yellow line too much), etc etc -- it's definitely not what I would want on my Camaro. As it is that's why I like driving my 1994 Camaro more than my 2012 Camaro -- the 1994 Camaro is a more pure-grit driving experience whereas the 2012 Camaro I could be driving any other manual car and feel the same.
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Originally Posted by NVmyZL1
The same folks who have been buying Evo's and STi's. Here they get a similar power train in a much sportier package. Tuners will have a ball with the turbo4's.
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Bingo. All that adding a turbo 4 into the line-up does is expand the Camaro's appeal to more people who can be converted into die-hard Camaro enthusiasts.
My Camaro passion started with my 1994 3.4L v6. 3 years into owning it I was starting Michigan's only all-FBody website, hosting FBody car shows, buying every Camaro and Firebird diecast I could afford, met and later married a gorgeous Italian who has a 2002 Firebird herself, etc. Now my 1994 Camaro is a cammed and stalled 357ci LT1, I bought a 2012 Camaro to add to the staple, my wife still has her 2002 Firebird, and my enthusiasm for FBodies was so infectious that my mother-in-law bought a 2000 Trans Am, my mom bought a 2012 Camaro 2LS, and my dad bought a 1995 Firebird Formula and later sold it to buy a 1998 Trans Am convertible. My Michigan FBody site has 2300 members and our yearly show has well over 200 participants. All that from a 1994 v6 Camaro that - at the time - was "just a sporty looking car to drive."
Some people say the Camaro should only be offered in a v8 option - well, if it was then I probably wouldn't be one of the most passionate Camaro enthusiasts around because my parents wouldn't have agreed to let me buy a Z28 or an SS for my first car... they only wanted to see me get the v6. (Although - I'm seeing that parents now adays have no control over their kids and are buying them 45k Camaros for their first car
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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65
Comparing GM's new turbo 4s to old 4 cylinders is like comparing an F-22A to the Hindenburg.
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