Originally Posted by DGthe3
I left the door open for them to be telling the truth. I also know that technical info isn't always posted on websites. As I said, some of the products that make similar claims are not scams, but most of them are.
Yes, I have been accused of overthinking. Not too often though, normally I'm told that I over simplify things. Anyway, the math is right. But all that it proves is that if you had a tank of water and tried to use electrolysis of that water to power your car, it would drain the battery faster than trying to run the car off that battery.
It doesn't run off the battery solely. It runs off the alternator while the engine is running. It won't put that much drain on the electrical system that the alternator can't keep the battery charged.
I proposed that it runs based on injecting oxygen (which is more similar to adding nitrous oxide than adding hydrogen would be) because I understand that portion of the chemistry. More oxgen=more complete combustion, which is part of their claim. It also creates a greater volume of gas which increases the 'bang for the buck', resulting in better fuel economy or more power depending on tuning. I did the math and it is possible for the required levels of oxygen to be produced, miligrams/rev. So unless I am wrong with my chemistry, adding oxygen would lead to the claims that they propose. No idea what sort of numbers it would give though.
The claim that hydrogen makes it burn more efficiently doesnt make sense to me. hydrogen needs oxygen to burn, and it take the oxygen before the gasoline does (based on reactivity). So, unless both the oxygen an hydrogen are introduced together (already in the perfect stoich ratio) it would lead to more incomplete combustion, unless more air is introduced as well. That could very well be the case, I don't know but I don't think that the system does that.
Well, my simplified answer is that the oxygen is already part of the air getting sucked into the engine. Unless you are talking about 100% O2. Which will certainly burn better than outside air. I think the reason chemicals like Hydrogen and NOS are used because they are much more stable and safe to store than pure O2, which is extremely flammable.
Both of those ideas say nothing about the potential 'special properties' of burning hydrogen and gasoline together. I simply don't know anything about what happens, if it happens, so I cannot comment. And if it turns out that this is how it works, thats fine by me. I am not a chemistry guy so I have no problems being told that I am wrong when Im out of my field. As I said, something similar hapens with ethanol in moderate amounts so it is possible that it could happen with hydrogen.
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