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Originally Posted by Steve Dallas
I love how you misinterpreted my question to refer to the past. As I said, both Ford & Chevy have always had a back and forth as far as the "faster" car, and that's gone on for years.
My comment did not say "When Ford MADE something faster than the Corvette, then maybe I'll be impressed.."
Yes, the GT was faster at one time...just like the Camaro was faster until the Shelby GT500 was faster. And, as I said...it is unlikely that Chevy will ever build something more powerful and faster than their flagship in the Camaro since they don't want to outdo their flagship product, the Corvette.
Even so, the Camaro ZL1 is faster (and better suited) to road courses without modifications, considering the brake fade that's been reported in so many tests in the Shelby after just one or two laps.
The Shelby has more power because there are no limits to the power since that is Fords flagship. We can go into the live axle and other problems with lack of technology in the Shelby as well if you want. You can put lipstick (power) on a pig, but it's still a pig. Until Ford does something with those things, they will still be second best in my book.
Again, when Ford makes something faster than the Corvette, I'll be impressed.
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As far as market cannibalism goes, how does the 2014 Z28 and the new Stingray fare? From what I understand, and I could be totally wrong, but the Stingray is going to be somewhere in the low to mid 50's maybe more with options. Now the ZL-1 comes in at what maybe around 60K? The 2014 Z28 I am going to assume will be more expensive than the ZL-1. Maybe mid-60's? Maybe close to 70K? The Stingray and the Z28 will both be n/a, and neither may be all that much if any faster than the supercharged ZL-1. Steve, I had Camaros in the 90's, my dad had a fiberglass 69 Stingray with a bored out 327 and Mickey Thompson headers and a 4-speed. Amazing car for 1969. But this ZL-1/Z28/Stingray market looks very confused. Will the Stingray outperform both those Camaros? It looks like you might have two Camaros that equal the new Vette's performance or come fairly close. Who is the target buyer for each car? Why would anyone pay close to 70K for a Camaro that very well may not outperform another Camaro priced under it and with a stronger engine? Or pay 10-15K more for a Camaro that has the same engine as a new Corvette? I guess it is good for the consumer to have so many choices but this business model seems to be a bit hard to comprehend.