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Originally Posted by Stew

Apparently I am not the only one lacking reading comprehension, i have listed a million times how from the brakes to the HP, to the fact the SS will have softer suspension tuning to iliustrate the SS will not come within seconds of posting track numbers close to the SS or SRT8.

Not within seconds?? I'll take that bet.

Originally Posted by Stew

2 other things to consider, in 11 the transmission was an issue on the Charger SRT8 and the main reason the times were slower, that said they have retued the transmission for 12/13 and have fixed the issues (ie the Charger Puruit was right with the older SRTs in the Lightnint lap with that and suspension/hpo upgrades since 09). Another thing, that Challenger the posted the quickest time did not have the latest suspension, whereas they now have the electronic suspension (which BTW has been upgraded from 2 mode to 3 mode even in the Charger since that lightning Lap test.

Here we go with the excuses again. So if the engine has 3000-5000 miles, but isn't an '11 with faulty transmission, has the right electronic suspension with XYZ settings and is running with the wind at its back, downhill it will perform adequately? Must be tough coming up with all these excuses...

Originally Posted by Stew

As for the test of the 09 SRT8 and GXP, you really believe that shows ANY real advantage for any car? the numbers are so close in EVERY aspect that it could be a matter of a 1/10th difference in the 60 ft, or one spun just a little more than the other, it is a dead heat, with the old SRT and I don't honestly see anyway the SS with NO HP advantage and only a SLIGHT weight advantage is going to be any better. And did the GXP have 4 wheel Brembos or just 2 wheel like the SS.

I suspect the rear brakes will be the same non-descript single-piston sliding calipers as the Commodore VE (GXP). The fronts are now a two-piece rotor. Not sure this is going to have a tremendous impact over a 2-piston rear. The GT and pre-2013 GT500 also come with non-descript single-piston rear calipers and that doesn't seem to hold the GT back vs the M3

Both the Holden VF and SRT8 have undergone revisions since that 2009 comparison. I have shown you the difference between the old Holden VE (GXP) and the new SRT8 and the difference is slight but tangible.

GXP: 0-60 in 4.7, 13.1 1/4mile at 109mph
SRT8: 0-60 in 4.5, 12.8 1/4mile at 112mph

The new for 2014 VF Commodore and Chevrolet SS will have a number of improvements over the outgoing VE (GXP), slight engine alterations to improve performance and fuel efficiency, a redesigned automatic gearbox for improved gear selection, 88lb weight reduction and lowering center of gravity due to the all-aluminum hood, roof and rear-deck, the switch to electric power steering and a reduction in drag coefficient due to aerodynamic efficiency. There is simply no way to anticipate the impact these will have on the overall performance of the car. We will simply have to wait for the reviews to start rolling in.

Originally Posted by Stew

Back to the origional issue, I will be surprised if they move half their target, this is just something to put out to show fans that a RWD performance sedan under the Chevy Brand will not sell with the added benefit as adding a little production capacity to the holden plant in Aus.

Then why are you so concerned about it? You're not a paid member of the GM marketing team. You have zero skin in the game. You must work for an independent, third party firm that performs sales forecasting for the automotive industry? No, I didn't think so. We can revisit this thread in 6 months and see who was right. Until then, you can go back to whining about the battery in your Lumina.