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Originally Posted by MEDISIN
Right, and the professional staff at Edmunds, C&D, MotorTrend and MotorWeek all ran in the 12's too. So what's your point?
Now you're making excuses. So the Hemi requires 3000-5000 miles break-in before it can keep up with a Chevy? What happens when the Chevy engine breaks in? Hmmm, back to where we started.
Not paying attention I see. I already brought this up way back at post #167. They were close but the GXP was still faster. The 392 is faster still but only by 2-tenths to 60, 3-tenths and 3mph in the quarter.
Never did I say the SS would handle like the ZL1 or 1LE. Your reading comprehension is abysmal. I merely brought up these cars to illustrate the workings of the Zeta platform in relation to the LX platform. The Zeta has been praised time and again for its handling characteristics. Likewise the LX has been praised for its comfy interstate ride quality. Around a track the LX suffers. The fastest time recorded in the Lightning Lap for an LX based vehicle was the 392 Challenger last year, only one-tenth faster than the 2010 Camaro SS. For the sake of comparison:
2:57.5 CHEVROLET CAMARO ZL1
3:01.5 CHEVROLET CAMARO SS 1LE
3:09.4 DODGE CHALLENGER SRT8 392
3:09.5 CHEVROLET CAMARO SS
3:10.1 DODGE CHARGER SRT8 392
3:16.3 DODGE CHALLENGER SRT8 370
3:18.2 DODGE CHARGER SRT8 370
Given the GXP's performance is just shy of the Camaro SS in a straight line given the extra 150lbs, I'm guessing the SS sedan is smack in Charger 392 territory around a track. Only time will tell.
Ultimately, some will prefer the smaller size and interior of the SS over the Dodge. The Dodge is a bit played out in my opinion. Both are performance bargains. Will most likely come down to brand preference and the uniqueness of the SS relative to the Dodge. |
Apparently I am not the only one lacking reading comprehension, i have listed a million times how from the brakes to the HP, to the fact the SS will have softer suspension tuning to iliustrate the SS will not come within seconds of posting track numbers close to the SS or SRT8. 2 other things to consider, in 11 the transmission was an issue on the Charger SRT8 and the main reason the times were slower, that said they have retued the transmission for 12/13 and have fixed the issues (ie the Charger Puruit was right with the older SRTs in the Lightnint lap with that and suspension/hpo upgrades since 09). Another thing, that Challenger the posted the quickest time did not have the latest suspension, whereas they now have the electronic suspension (which BTW has been upgraded from 2 mode to 3 mode even in the Charger since that lightning Lap test.
As for the test of the 09 SRT8 and GXP, you really believe that shows ANY real advantage for any car? the numbers are so close in EVERY aspect that it could be a matter of a 1/10th difference in the 60 ft, or one spun just a little more than the other, it is a dead heat, with the old SRT and I don't honestly see anyway the SS with NO HP advantage and only a SLIGHT weight advantage is going to be any better. And did the GXP have 4 wheel Brembos or just 2 wheel like the SS.
This has been fun but I am to the point I can't read your whole posts because it is the same stuff that has been refuted and you just do not want to accept.If the SS had come out against the last gen SRT8 cars, it would have been a good comparison, but with all the updates in every aspect of the LX cars, the extra 1-2k buys you a hell of a lot in performance over the SS.
Back to the origional issue, I will be surprised if they move half their target, this is just something to put out to show fans that a RWD performance sedan under the Chevy Brand will not sell with the added benefit as adding a little production capacity to the holden plant in Aus.