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Originally Posted by Stew

Actually, last i checked, Chevy provided the ubiquitous fleet and rental car in the Impala.

The SS is not an Impala now is it. The Charger R/T, SRT8 is still a Charger, and the Charger is a rental car. You see the difference?

Originally Posted by Stew

ROFL, I have already answered most of your questions. Please do your research on the Charger R/T. ALL comparisons were against the 08 Cahrger R/T, the 09 got a rougly 20-30 HP jump over the 08 R/Ts that were tested against the G8 GT (fyi, edmunds for example tested a normal R/T without the trackpack and only 340 HP, the Road and Track had 350, for 09 the HP went to 368-372 respectively and dynos show the difference was actually much greater), R/Ts with this engine have gone as quick as low 13s and mid 13s are pretty normal for a RWD model. For 10 they even added the Super track Pack from the Challenger to the Charger R/T Road and Track. Any 11 plus Charger R/T would more than give a G8 GT a run in ANY performance category since the suspension was tweaked to the point it is decribed as BMW like (hmmmm, sound familiar G8 fans?).

Yes, let's look at R/T performance data and then compare it to the GXP which is the most accurate proxy for the SS not the GT.

2011+ Charger's:
R&T: 0-60 in 5.2, 13.7 1/4mile at 104mph, 4410lbs
MotorTrend: 0-60 in 5.3, 13.9 1/4mile at 103.6mph, 4319lbs
Edmunds: 0-60 in 5.4, 13.7 1/4mile at 102.8mph, 4315lbs

This gives us an average of 0-60 in 5.3, 13.8 1/4mile at 103mph, 4348lbs for the R/T. I post the weight to highlight the fact that the 2011+ Charger's also gained over 200lbs with the redesign yet retains its antiquated 5-speed slush-box.

2009 Pontiac G8 GXP:
R&T: 0-60 in 4.7, 13.1 1/4mile at 109mph
C&D: 0-60 in 4.7, 13.3 1/4mile at 109mph
MotorTrend: 0-60 in 4.5, 13.0 1/4mile at 109.6mph

This gives us an average of 0-60 in 4.7, 13.1 1/4mile at 109mph for the GXP.

Let me put these numbers side by side so you can see the difference.
GXP: 0-60 in 4.7, 13.1 1/4mile at 109mph
R/T: 0-60 in 5.3, 13.8 1/4mile at 103mph

That's an average of 6-tenths faster to 60, 7-tenths and 6mph faster in the quarter than 2011+ Charger R/T. That's not close my friend. At the end of the quarter the GXP is seven car lengths ahead and pulling. If the SS numbers end up being similar to the GXP numbers (which everything to date says they will) then the SS will slot between the R/T and SRT8 in both price and performance as I've stated all along.

Originally Posted by Stew

I also updated your picture for a dash to dash comparison.

The black/red interior you trying to pass off as a SuperBee is a full-fledged SRT8 not the stripped-out, cheesy cloth SuperBee. Nice try though. From Dodge's own website:



This is the ONLY interior option. No navigation, no HID headlamps, no sunroof, no 8" screen, no Uconnect, no heated seats, no leather and bee graphics on the dash, and seats. While it may be SRT8 performance, it's certainly not SS amenities/features.

Originally Posted by Stew

In any case, I am not arguing with you, but when the times and sales come through and i am correct, I will bring this thread back up to remind of our love .

I look forward to it.