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FenwickHockey65 · 07-04-2009, 09:20 AM

When did I ever say I was happy about this? Do I want the XTS to be RWD? Of course. Do I know if GM has the resources to do it? No, I don't, and that's where you and I differ. Again, going back to the "armchair CEOs" thing, the people who are "car guys" see nothing more than product without regard to finances or resources. Zeta is dead, the investment is closed after Camaro. Sigma has already been maxed out with CTS. Alpha is still a few years off, and it will underpin the sub-CTS model and the next-gen CTS. GM has yet to develop a full size RWD platform, and in the current financial state they're in, they may not be able to develop such a platform for some time. At a time where Americans already have a negative view of GM and are expecting them to make good use of their tax dollars, a massive RWD luxury sedan may not settle well in the minds of Americans, exactly why the Z28 was shelved.

I also think you're totally missing the fact that the EpII platform is one of the most versatile platforms GM's ever developed. One of the main priorities in its engineering was AWD, and for all you know, the XTS could be AWD exclusive. The AWD system in EpII cars is the Haldex system which has already been proven to be an extremely sophisticated and well-engineered system.

All I'm saying is that maybe you should see and drive the car before you decide to criticize the hell out of it. Look at the new SRX. It's been praised up and down by journalists for its ride and handling, and it's built on a FWD platform. People did the same thing you're doing now before then, "Oh God, this car is going to be total **** since it's not RWD," and they ended up being proven wrong.

So, in summary...
-I do agree that this car should be RWD, but given the current state of finances and resources, I understand why it's on EpII.
-Am I happy about this? Not really, but there's nothing I can do about it.
-I will reserve my judgement on this car until I see it in person and drive it.

The reason I chose not to post the article is because I'm sick and tired of reading threads that degenerate into overreactions.

And finally, DTS does not share a platform with Impala.

07-04-2009, 09:20 AM	#50
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2023 Expedition Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,375 View My Garage	When did I ever say I was happy about this? Do I want the XTS to be RWD? Of course. Do I know if GM has the resources to do it? No, I don't, and that's where you and I differ. Again, going back to the "armchair CEOs" thing, the people who are "car guys" see nothing more than product without regard to finances or resources. Zeta is dead, the investment is closed after Camaro. Sigma has already been maxed out with CTS. Alpha is still a few years off, and it will underpin the sub-CTS model and the next-gen CTS. GM has yet to develop a full size RWD platform, and in the current financial state they're in, they may not be able to develop such a platform for some time. At a time where Americans already have a negative view of GM and are expecting them to make good use of their tax dollars, a massive RWD luxury sedan may not settle well in the minds of Americans, exactly why the Z28 was shelved. I also think you're totally missing the fact that the EpII platform is one of the most versatile platforms GM's ever developed. One of the main priorities in its engineering was AWD, and for all you know, the XTS could be AWD exclusive. The AWD system in EpII cars is the Haldex system which has already been proven to be an extremely sophisticated and well-engineered system. All I'm saying is that maybe you should see and drive the car before you decide to criticize the hell out of it. Look at the new SRX. It's been praised up and down by journalists for its ride and handling, and it's built on a FWD platform. People did the same thing you're doing now before then, "Oh God, this car is going to be total **** since it's not RWD," and they ended up being proven wrong. So, in summary... -I do agree that this car should be RWD, but given the current state of finances and resources, I understand why it's on EpII. -Am I happy about this? Not really, but there's nothing I can do about it. -I will reserve my judgement on this car until I see it in person and drive it. The reason I chose not to post the article is because I'm sick and tired of reading threads that degenerate into overreactions. And finally, DTS does not share a platform with Impala. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2023 Ford Expedition SSV (State-Issued)