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Old 04-03-2008, 12:27 PM   #22
Kyle2k
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Originally Posted by gtahvit View Post
If you want to see us that way then you are more than entitled to that opinion.

Know this, America and Americans are as successful as we are because we believe you make your own way. If you want to cheer for the little guy, fine. Instead of helping him to stay put and be supported by those of us who are making our own way, help him to have more wealth and peace of mind than he would other wise have by giving him tools to make his own way. The American Dream, I see it in people every day. And not just those of us with houses and cars. Mostly I see it in those who are willing to grab their own bootstraps and be prosperous. And not prosperous in how much stuff you have. That's the world's take on The American Dream. The REAL American Dream is shown in how well you care for those you love and are accountable to.

You want to say that mass transit is a way to help the little guy? Great. At what point does the little guy pay his own way? At what point is there any motivation to be a better provider for his family if he has everything he needs. Don't have a job? Get unemployment. Can't work? Get welfare. Need food? Get food stamps. Can't afford a car?, Ride the bus. You tell me when it ends.

For you to say what you did in this post shows you don't have a clue why Americans are the way we are. You're on the outside looking in.

It's already been said, Taxes are the reason we fought for independence. And, the reason people came to this country is so they could make their own way.

The U.S. is becoming a welfare society and we don't like it. So give us a little room to comment honestly about the way our country is changing.

I guess the good news for you is, you don't live here.

See this is where your logic is absolutely moot, you aren't helping him by taking away funding that helps pay for tuition, transportation, healthcare, etc...you are taking the tools away. He can't get to school, he doesn't learn, he can't get to work, he can't earn money and spend it to boost the economy, he can't get healthcare for a decent price, he'll have to make sacrifices like not going to work or school etc. Do you understand the connection I am trying to make? Because there is one, for instance, I live in ND the government gave people land here to start farming, working etc (and just to live here lol) Everyone needs help or gets help and thats what can help the prosper. I would truly like to see you dumped off in the middle of the street without any money/without memories of your education/transportation/etc and see if you can work back to your current income based on your work ethic. If you do thats great, and I would like you to prove me wrong, but I don't think it would happen.
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