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Originally Posted by DarkneSS
Go ahead, my car, my property, I'll just take it out.
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Originally Posted by ShnOmac
I don't think you actually can....
"Gary Biller, executive director of the National Motorists Association:
“It’s in the cars, it can’t be turned off, and the information is available to anyone with a court order. Our members ask whether these devices can be disabled, but they can’t, because they are integral to the computer systems that control modern cars.”
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Originally Posted by Mr_Draco
Go ahead and remove it. You won't have an operable vehicle when you do as it is an integral part of the computer system. The Camaro already has one so I guess you'll be taking it out?
Getting a court order to read someone's black box is very complicated and the only times I've ever seen the order given was when someone died cause of the accident. So if you are ever in the position to have your black box read you will either be dead or in jail facing charges.
Oh and P.S. All GM vehicles since 1990 has one and over 90% of vehicles sold in the US since 1995 have one as well. So if anyone is against the idea better sell any new vehicles they may own and buy a vehicle made before 1990.
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aside from that, I suspect there will be a law stating removal of it is a federal crime, like removing air bags, or cats.
even beyond that I would suspect that insurance companies may mandate that if it has been removed or tampered with then your claim or coverage will be denied, and of course GM and many other manufacturers will void your warranty as a result as well.
Personally I don't have an issue with it being there, knowing they have been in cars for at least 15 years to begin with..
What concerns me is the eventual ability for them to be accessed wirelessly at any time, making it possible for various agencies to pull data from the vehicle and use it against you, DMV, Insurance, Police, Etc.
Things are already headed this way with those idiotic ODB plug in deals that several insurance companies are promoting, optional now, but at some point they may become mandatory, and I suspect it will be tied directly into this regulation/law.
ODB III is the first step in this direction, and at some point I suspect it will happen.