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camaro5 · 03-30-2008, 10:12 PM

Thanks Dragon - That's good info. Consumer Reports Readers don't agree as much, but quality is greatly improved.

I read the JD Power info and it looks great. Truthfully, I thought about it, and there's only one car I really want. The new Camaro. Nothing else turns me on.

The Pontiac G8 is tempting me, it's on the same Zeta platform and getting stellar reviews. But, I must try to hold out for Camaro.

I mentioned in an earlier post that the Camaro will be built in GM's Oshawa, Ontario plant. They have received JD Power's highest initial quality in North America award. And Consumer Reports readers reported that the models built there previously (Pontiac Grand Prix, Buick Lucerne) were well assembled vehicles.

I needed some reasonable positive input, thanks

Here's some interesting info from Consumer Reports:

April 2008

Reliability trends
Our latest survey tracks a decade's worth of trouble

Reliability remains a forte for most Japanese brands. Twenty-three of the 33 models in our “most reliable” list are from Japanese automakers. Moreover, we’ve predicted average reliability or better for all Honda and Subaru models based on our most recent survey.

This year’s forecast shows that domestic models, led by Ford, continue to improve and that there are small improvements in European makes as well.

Toyota’s previously sterling reliability has slipped a bit, and two Toyota models, the V6 Camry and the four-wheel-drive, V8 version of the Tundra, have below-average reliability in their 2007 redesign. The all-wheel-drive version of the Lexus GS also dropped below average. We now predict below-average reliability for all three models and can no longer recommend them.

Other news from our latest survey:

Despite Toyota's problems, the automaker still ranks third overall in reliability, behind only Honda and Subaru, with 11 models in the best list. Honda has six with a smaller model lineup.

Only three domestic models made the Most reliable list: the Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, and the two-wheel-drive Ford F-150 with the V6 engine. U.S. makes, however, account for almost half the models—25 of 44—on the Least reliable list. There are 13 from GM, 6 from Chrysler, and 1 from Ford.

European makes account for 17 models on the Least reliable list. This includes six each from Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen/Audi.

03-30-2008, 10:12 PM	#18
camaro5 Drives: X-15 Velocipede Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,630	Thanks Dragon - That's good info. Consumer Reports Readers don't agree as much, but quality is greatly improved. I read the JD Power info and it looks great. Truthfully, I thought about it, and there's only one car I really want. The new Camaro. Nothing else turns me on. The Pontiac G8 is tempting me, it's on the same Zeta platform and getting stellar reviews. But, I must try to hold out for Camaro. I mentioned in an earlier post that the Camaro will be built in GM's Oshawa, Ontario plant. They have received JD Power's highest initial quality in North America award. And Consumer Reports readers reported that the models built there previously (Pontiac Grand Prix, Buick Lucerne) were well assembled vehicles. I needed some reasonable positive input, thanks Here's some interesting info from Consumer Reports: April 2008 Reliability trends Our latest survey tracks a decade's worth of trouble Reliability remains a forte for most Japanese brands. Twenty-three of the 33 models in our “most reliable” list are from Japanese automakers. Moreover, we’ve predicted average reliability or better for all Honda and Subaru models based on our most recent survey. This year’s forecast shows that domestic models, led by Ford, continue to improve and that there are small improvements in European makes as well. Toyota’s previously sterling reliability has slipped a bit, and two Toyota models, the V6 Camry and the four-wheel-drive, V8 version of the Tundra, have below-average reliability in their 2007 redesign. The all-wheel-drive version of the Lexus GS also dropped below average. We now predict below-average reliability for all three models and can no longer recommend them. Other news from our latest survey: Despite Toyota's problems, the automaker still ranks third overall in reliability, behind only Honda and Subaru, with 11 models in the best list. Honda has six with a smaller model lineup. Only three domestic models made the Most reliable list: the Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, and the two-wheel-drive Ford F-150 with the V6 engine. U.S. makes, however, account for almost half the models—25 of 44—on the Least reliable list. There are 13 from GM, 6 from Chrysler, and 1 from Ford. European makes account for 17 models on the Least reliable list. This includes six each from Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen/Audi. Last edited by camaro5; 03-30-2008 at 10:46 PM.