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Old 06-04-2009, 12:28 PM   #10
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so you're upset about this article that totes toyota as getting a piece of the volt? Do a bit of research before you scream bloody murder.

ASSUMING THIS ARTICLE IS VALID:
this quote below sums it up, as much as i loved the idea of GM pioneering a breakthrough car like this, right now they can't afford to lose a ton of money on a car like this.
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Originally Posted by Bob Lutz
But, as the government auto task force was adding up the numbers, it quickly became obvious that the Volt was going to be a really expensive car for what we were going to be able to offer. As soon as we realized how much the Volt was going to cost and that we would not be able to offer an immediate $8,000 'Friends and Family' discount on the car, we knew the Volt would never make it out the door."
but i've gotta call this article out , if you try a google search for "Toyota Jolt" (in quotes) there's less than a page of results, and there isn't a single reputable article that is returned (reputable=quotable in a report, i'm not bashing that forum. no different as how i wouldn't quote the Camaro5 main page). Something like this, a GM-Toyota partnership, would be big news and you'd definitely get more than 10 search results. Google News doesn't even have any articles.

and i've watched that documentary, it's a VERY interesting watch, but fairly biased. Search through Bob Lutz interviews on the EV-1, it was costing GM roughly 100,000+ to produce a EV-1, and if memory serves me right, they were leasing them for roughly 350 a month. math--> 100,000/350=285
that's 285 months. *rent your EV-1 today, 350/month for 24 years!*
and even if my memory is inflating by a few thousand, you're still looking at a ridiculously long/expensive lease. There comes a point when the people working in the accounting apartment say "okay, this is ridiculous, stop that now".

If you can find me an article on this Toyota Jolt from a legit source, then i'll give it some credibility. as of right now, i call fake.
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