[DGthe3]

Xmicro, I know exactly where you're coming from, at least I think I do. I get sick of so many people flying off the handle at every little thing. But I've been here for nearly 2 years now, I don't know how long you were watching before you joined. But when each set of spy-shots came out, there was almost always 1 thing that people complained about (amongst a lot of praise). Headlights, awkward proportions, too much body roll at the 'ring, horrible interior, lack luster paint, and many more. Then came the specs last summer, too heavy, not enough power, bad fuel economy, etc. And lately, wheel weights, cracked fascia, waiting for cars they ordered in October, who knows what it will be next week. It gets tiresome, and until lately, the 'problems' were mostly forgotten about a week after they were found and this site returned to a nice happy place. Thats not really the case anymore.

Now, when I joined we had little more than 1000 members. Now we are at 8600 and counting. During the day we have hundreds of members online and many more simply viewing. That increased traffic means more people are going to discuss things.

I'm rambling a bit. Sorry. You said you want a Camaro fans only forum. From the sound of things, that would be a place where nothing negative can be said, or either the post gets deleted or the member gets banned. But where would the lines be drawn?

Compare the performance of the 370Z to the Camaro: ban
SS isn't enough: delete.
Plastics too cheap: ban
Too heavy: delete
Don't want wheel weights: ban.
Think the GT500 is better: delete.
Don't like the shade of blue that is offered: ban
Exhaust isn't loud enough: delete

Obviously, thats more extreme than what you would like on your "Camaro fans only" forum, but I think you can understand my point. The number of people who think the Camaro is absolutely perfect is extremely small. The number who think its awesome is high, at least on this forum. Many of those voicing their concerns (Hylton, you come to mind) are huge Camaro fans and want the car (and GM) to be the best. These individuals voice concerns with the hope that things will improve. Nothing wrong with that, and thats why its allowed.

Then there are those who talk a lot about other cars such as the Mustang (like Garage Logic). I'm glad to have people who are knowledgable about cars besides the Camaro because it prevents me from becoming blind to the rest of the automotive world. There's a quote that I like to use for this: "Know your enemy and know yourself and you need not fear the result of a thousand battles".

If you want, setup your own v-bulletin forum, be the administrator and set your own rules. I'm sure Tran would even be willing to let you know what you need to do. But I know that despite all the problems we have had at this site lately with the short tempers and apperent lack of maturity, I know I won't be going to any other site.