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Originally Posted by FNKNSTN

I think the new Camry is a perfectly respectable car... doesn't look bad either.

And the Malibu is better in nearly every way. Waiting on reliability results ...

Toyota has a reputation for building cars that you can really drive into the ground... putting many thousands of miles on them before they totally crap out.

Many on this site would argue the same thing about Chevy's ...

I'll say it again...

Scions are hot cars now... Scion is a subsidiary of Toyota.
I can't find any data on Scions sales. Please share them if you have it.

Lexus is an extremely popular luxury car... Lexus is a subsidiary of Toyota.
They sold fewer units in America than GM's luxury brands (Caddy + Buick) did.

Toyota is a massive company that has made an amazing amount of money in the past 20 years.
GM is a massive company that has made an amazing amount of money in the past 100 years.

GM has held on for a long time. And GM is a popular American brand... but has never had the sales that Toyota has had.
What? For decades they sold more than anyone else in the world. They had a roughly 50% US market share for a while.

The only reason Toyota is losing sales is because of the poor economy, and people not being willing to go out and buy a car anytime soon... not because of a lack of quality or desirability. And the reporters say that Toyota is "losing" money - it's with respect to their projected goals for the quarter/year. It's not that they LOST money, it's just that they didn't MAKE the money that they were expecting to.

So, Toyota (with supposedly superior products) is losing sales because of the economy, but GM losing fewer sales last month in the exact same economy is because of poor products? And yes, Toyota is LOSING money, not simply being under their sales projection. They have more to lose, but when income is less than expenditures, its is a loss.

Toyota is the filthy stinking rich man who could care less whether the bottom falls out of his 401k or not... because he's got a shitload of money saved up elsewhere.

GM thought the same way a 20 years ago ...

GM is the average Joe who is trying to hold on and ride out the storm.
not going to dispute that

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