[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by GT5Junkie

So the Ford should be "twice as fast" with twice as much horsepower, but the ZL1 shouldn't? The point is that "twice the HP = twice as fast" is completely ridiculous. Saying it over and over is silly and makes your argument look extremely weak. Is the ZL1 twice as fast as the V6 Camaro? No.[/B]

Sigh. I know you are fixated on the Camaro, but I was NOT talking about the Camaro. I was only talking about Mustang performance on the same track, on the same day by the same driver. Mustang to Mustang. A BOSS LS is has a 40 HP advantage over a GT and is over 2 seconds faster. A GT500 with over 100 more ponies manages to be only .4% faster than a BOSS LS.

Now remember the Camaro has NOTHING to do with these questions.

1. Why does the BOSS LS perform so much better than the GT with only 40 more HP?

2. Why is the GT500 only .4% faster than the BOSS LS even though it has 25% more power?

Focus only on the two MUSTANGS as you compose your reply.

Originally Posted by GT5Junkie

Ford is also screaming that gear ratio changes make it such that it isn't actually putting more torque to the ground, which makes it EASIER, not more difficult, to put the power down. Yet you COMPLETELY ignore that FACT because it completely invalidates your point.

Wrong. I haven't ignored anything here. A road course is about maintaining MOMENTUM, the speed you carry into and out of a turn is critical to lap times. Once a vehicle reaches the limits of traction available through the tires increased power does NOT matter and increased cornering speed is NOT possible. Take another look at the Mustang lap times and you'll see this move from words in a post to lap times.

Originally Posted by GT5Junkie

Ford is the company who's "cheap route" has been crushing the Camaro in performance. Are there ANY SS/5.0 comparos that the SS has actually won? Can the SS with it's vastly superior suspension hang with the 5.0 at VIR? No.

We agree, Ford has taken the cheap route with the three link. I created this graphic to highlight it our sole are of agreement.

Ford Mustang Cobra IRS $$$
Ford Four Link $$
Ford Three Link $

Originally Posted by GT5Junkie

Lol, what's to complain about? The GT500 is going to destroy the ZL1 in a straight line (which is where probably 99% of spirited street and/or track driving occurs) and will probably beat it at VIR too.

Let me double check... As I suspected. There is absolutely NO track data in the public arena for a 2013 GT500 on a drag strip or a road course. NONE. In fact, Ford has not released ANY performance data for the 2013 GT500. That would mean you have no track data to support your statements, are voicing only your opinion while demonstrating your need to be visible on a Camaro forum.

NOTE: I enjoy a good discussion. I don't suffer fools well. I own a Mustang. I enjoy it. That doesn't mean I am blind to the weaknesses of the current Mustang chassis. Feel free to read THE Book on 5th Gen Suspension which includes our evaluation of the current Camaro right here on Camaro5 THE Camaro website.