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Originally Posted by Captain Awesome
The workers have no rights? Yeah that's a good one. They have the same rights as everyone else, working or not.
I prefer what you described to the alternative which is to hire kids straight out of high school for $75 dollars an hour and if they don't do the job right or they go smoke pot or get drunk on lunch break or they molest coworkers or children on the job you can't get rid of them. The unions protect them using money they STEAL from people who would rather NOT belong to the union either by FORCING them to pay dues regardless or through political payback from corrupt politicians.
Right to work is the right answer.
P.S. Not ALL unions are bad. Just a LOT of them are.
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no one is forced to join a damn Union... and you think someone can't be terminated on the job for drinking if they are Union
you watch Fox News a lot...........don't you, lol
I see people get fired everyday for popping out on drug tests, just like a non-union job
and no, they don't have any protection, I worked in a non-union Automotive plant for 2 years before deciding to join the Apprenticeship and becoming an electrician... I know what its like to have your insurance cut in half and your premiums doubled from December 31s to January 1st(overnight)... I know what its like to see someone work 64 days in a row(7 days a week, I did it) with no credit... but then decide to miss and have to abide by a "points system"... which is what kills me about the point system, when you work 60+ days in a row, you gain nothing... but when you miss a day, its the same punishment... there is no reward for them making you be there all the time(i'm talking 7 days a week) but if something comes up for you, even if its on a Sunday which technically isn't even your "scheduled" working day, its the same punishment for not showing up, whether its a Sunday or a Wednesday... once again, been there done that... and guess what, the Japanese all run their plants eerily the same... In Japan, they are used to a 60+ hour a week work schedule, working is their life over there.... here in America, we like to base our lives and time with family on 40... they don't understand that... rather than hire 2 people to do a job, they'd rather hire 1 and work him 7 days a week, 12 hours a day... hey, they are paying ONE benefit package...
go work in a right to work state at one of these plants, do it for 2 years, don't listen to Fox News, go do it yourself... and then get back to me... because i've lived the life 1st hand, not what Bill O'Reily told me
maybe they hire Union Contractors because for example when you hire a Union Electrical Contractor and you get 5 electricians on the job, you get 5 electricians who went through a 4 year(well, we do a 5 year here but we're ahead of the curve with a lot of PLC and Instrumentation courses) Apprenticeship, so you have 5 licensed electricians... when you hire a Rat, you may get 5 workers......but its probably going to be 1 licensed electrician and 4 "helpers"... aka, 4 Mexicans
the Immigration law passed here in Bama and they say construction is "taking a hit"... we aren't taking a hit, the Mexicans are leaving... damn, I hate that they are going to have to hire legal citizens now...........oh wait, that's a good thing