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Originally Posted by kudzu74

WTF, is this aggie crap? S&P is gonna down-grade the SEC if that happens.

Wow. You seem to be worse than SEC fan. You're like one of those half vampires in the movies. You wanna be a vampire so bad you drink the Vampire coolaid.

Originally Posted by mastertypodemon

Obviously you meant the Big 10. Or Big 6 or whatever after everyone jumps ship to a real conference.

On a side note : GEAUX TIGERS!

The Big12 has been right there with the SEC since the inception of the BCS.

So what do you mean by real conference?

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I appreciate you responding with an appropriately long post.

I was really railing the owners in the first part. I just think that if you do the work, you should get paid for most of it. These days, there's so much money going around that owners and managers can collect the majority of the revenue while still delivering multi-million dollar contracts to players. I think that it's crazy on all sides. That's what I meant. Owners make too much. Players make too much. I don't know where I'd rather put the money, but there's too much money.

Notre Dame sucks in both causing the fall of the Big 12 and being way less than they used to be. They're the reason for this. When the Big 10 finally gave up on them, they decided to woo Nebraska. That was too easy. Colorado immediately bounced, although I have trouble understanding why anyone wanted Colorado. They're not very good. What we have left is a higher concentration of talent.

I agree with you that having 4 huge conferences with 16 teams each is great, but the problem is more logistic. Imagine you're still at school in Oklahoma and that I'm still at school in Kansas. Let's hypothetically both join the SEC. You might be making a short trip to Kentucky this weekend. I might be heading all the way to Alabama. Think about the fans. That sucks. One of the best parts of being a student at one of these schools is that the hardcore fans have the option of going to all the games. With 16-team conferences, that's not realistic for fans.

Maybe the expense of fan travel should come out of someone's massive advertising budget, but that's just me talking about how the love of the game and the love of the fans turned into the love of the money.

It's true. So much money floating around the NFL it's not even funny. But they market the product well. I guess I'm just one of those hard headed 'R' guys. If they can make it for their great great great great grandchildren, they should be able to do it. If I were an owner, I would do it differently than the seeming greed that they have. But while they are still profitable now, we don't know how profitable all of them are. There are some teams who arent' as rich as others. hence the need for the CBA. My thing is if the league were to start losing money and failing somehow, it would be the owners who lost everything. The players wouldn't lose anything not already reconciled.

But, this is a college thread I took your example and ran with it.

You are right about the superconferences. College sports should be about the students.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist guy. Never have been, never will. BUT, I think that the only reason the NFL still is superior over college football for popularity and revenue is because college has no playoffs.

Yes, SEC fan, the NFL is actually superior to college football in those terms.

If college football went to the big conferences AND a playoff, it would possibley knock the NFL off of the cat-bird seat. Now that's a huge maybe, but it would grow the game a ton. My dad has always and will always refer to the NFL as REAL football and college as college football. He has not watched a college game in my lifetime. And won't untill they get a playoff. He always hated how they'd just vote Notre Dame or whoever it was to be champs and they never got to play it on the feild with the teams in question. He even admits he'll watch Oklahoma IF they eer get a playoff system.

Originally Posted by MEDISIN

This is what mystifies me most about SEC fans - it's how they see the college football world. With the exception of Alabama, no other SEC team has had consistent success over the years. So the non-Alabama fans of the SEC put conference first, since they have little else to brag about year in and year out. Conferences appear, disappear and realign over time. The only reason to hide behind the veil of a conference is if your team isn't earning recognition on it's own.
When John Blake was coaching (if you can call it that) at OU during the 90's, and we went 12-22 (our worst stint in history), I wasn't chanting BIG12-BIG12-BIG12 because Nebraska was fielding some of the best teams in the history of the sport. Even then, as a boy, I still cheered for my Sooners every Saturday as we got embarrassed on the field, hoping our fate would turn.

It's always comical when I hear SEC fan bitch about the BCS. HELLOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a GAUNTLET......... Don't you know?