[Mr Twisty]

Originally Posted by NoUCantDriveIt

Ut-oh... I think our buddy Doc is drowning in a sea of Estrogen

"Conniving?"... I say not, but rather "alternative means of applied influence".

For every man proudly standing in front of HIS FreakinBestEverMade Brickwall, is a woman that "influenced" the brick mason he hired to build it exactly the way SHE wanted it.

I'm not going to turn Gloria Steinem and soap-box, and maybe you see it as Conniving. From a female viewpoint... we don't always have the same options as a man, so we use the tools we're given. Like... being smart enough to convince men it was really their idea.

That reminds me of a joke...

A newlywed couple moves into their new house.

One day the husband comes home from work and his wife says, "Honey, you know, in the upstairs bathroom one of the pipes is leaking, could you fix it?"

The husband says, "What do I look like, Mr. Plumber?"

A few days go by, and he comes home from work and his wife says, "Honey, the car wont start. I think it needs a new battery. Could you change it for me?"

He says: "What do I look like, Mr. Goodwrench?"

Another few days go by, and its raining pretty hard. The wife finds a leak in the roof. She says, "Honey, theres a leak on the roof! Can you please fix it?"

He says, "What do I look like, Bob Vila?"

The next day the husband comes home and the roof is fixed. So is the plumbing. So is the car. He asks his wife what happened.

"Oh, I had a handyman come in and fix them," she says.

"Great! How much is that going to cost me?" he snarls.

Wife says: "Nothing. He said hed do it for free if I either baked him a cake or slept with him."

"Uh, well, what kind of cake did you make?" asks the husband.

"What do I look like," she says, "Betty Crocker?"