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Originally Posted by manimsoblack
I think I understand where you're coming from better than some as I a spent a decent amount of time living in the worst part of Miami. I'm not gonna give my life story as I tend to get long winded, but I get you (I think). The problem with your reasoning as i see it is that you think we're assuming that all people or even most people on welfare do drugs. We're saying that if even 20% do and we were able to remove them from the system, it would be better for everyone.
Exp. 100 welfare recipients.
Since you gave the figure of 15k we'll use that. That's $1250 per month to each person or a total of $125,000 given out to those 100 people per month. Say we drug test them all one month and spent $13,500 for the hair test. 20 of them fail. No checks for them for the next 3 months which would've been $75,000. That's a saving of $61,500. The people who pass didn't pay anything out of pocket, and weren't punished in any way. In fact we can probably give them a bit more since we're saving all this money anyway.
And eventually with the ineligibility after so many fails we'd begin to save money on the tests. Since we'll have to give out less of them.
The people who aren't doing anything wrong have nothing to worry about, and I think the minor inconvenience of stopping by a facility once every few months in negligible. In fact with all this drug testing the companies will need more workers which might create more jobs for some of those who need it.
My major issue is that tax payer and government money is being used to support the drug trade. This will help to slow that up a bit.
I really can't see the downside. If you do please tell me.
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Originally Posted by manimsoblack
No.
SO you're saying that as long as someone NEEDS the money it's okay for them to do drugs? 
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NO..NO NO NO NO...Sorry...that came out wrong. I re-read that and it did sound bad. I meant that there are people who are worthy of welfare and need it. That is understandable. But, if you also read the other part of my post, I said that if the government were to keep giving out money to those who abuse drugs, they might as well be aiding or funding drug running...something that I"m COMPLETELY opposed to. There are people who do drugs who get the money and should not. Then, there are people who don't do drugs and deserve the money because they need it.
You explained it much better in your post above.