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Originally Posted by Milk 1027

The way I read it, officers will stop people if they seem to be illegal immigrants. If they are stopped for a violation and can't produce id, it's a different story.

Yep, that is the key, and the same thing applies to AZ, Once stopped for committing a crime or violation, you must provide valid ID.

Only time you can detain someone for suspicion of illegal immigration is within certain amount of miles from an international border (forgot the distance). Or an acting international border, such as an international airport.

Yep, that is why the BP check points are where they are...

Tell me, how are officers going to decide who "looks" like an illegal immigrant?


I've lived in CA for 9 years... and I agree there is some truth to the fact that the LEO's are .... hard to get along with... But at the end of the day, it's not the law that's the problem....


That's a different story. That's not how I'm reading this.

Only thing I agree with you on.
But people say that is if it's so damn easy to just go get naturalized an become a citizen.

My uncle, who's father, mother, and all his sisters are U.S. Citizens, just now got his citizenship. AFTER 20+ YEARS OF WAIT. Only because he was not born on this side of the border like the rest of his family.
Tell me how fair that is? Entire families seperated for decades because of this.
The truth is if ICE doesn't change their citizenship proccess, illegal immigration is going to continue at a rapid pace. The problem needs to be fixed from the source.

I tend to agree Milk... it should be easier... After watching what "G" went through and what some of my family go through it is frustrating... But I'm still for the enforcement of the law.

Originally Posted by UT-Enginner

Its called sarcasm

wow... big time

Originally Posted by PQ

And how would you recruit? I doubt Mexico or Canada is going to be cool with seting up a recruiting station for military?

There should be streamlined ways to become a US citizen. Milk, I am not unsensitive to the family plight of trying to obtain citizenship. But like your family had to wait and DID wait and obtain legal citizenship through great patience and strife and anguish, I would think that it woud piss you off that some thumb their noses at it and just take it illegaly.

Some families go through the time, money, and pains of obtaining this. And others just take it. If I were from Mexico and had went through all of that to legally get here, I'd look at the illegals as thieves.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere. And what good is that line if it's not enforced? I'm just for enforcing that line.

And it really doesn't help when rallys are held in arrogance with the Mexican or Canadia flag.

Most Latin Americans were not in favor of those demonstrations. FWIW