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Old 02-18-2009, 10:55 AM   #154
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Ok! I don't want to get into this too much, but I have lived in quite a few states, and I can tell you from experience this state is very hard to mak it. As far right to work, well I have never been forced to work in the union in any state. There are union shops and non union shops its your choice. This state is underpaid, my trade is 8$ hr under standard from the rest of the nation, and the cost of living I am sorry is not very low, I would guess that there are places that are cheaper than others, but I know where I live the cost of living has gone up 10 fold in 10yrs, and wages have not budged an inch. And the fact the unions don't have much weight here is the fact the the employers get away with practices that screw the employee. I respect your views especially for a young man, and you seem to keep up with things pretty good, but I will have to disagree with you somewhat on this one. BTW my property taxes went up 10 grand in 2 yrs. Don't get me wrong though, I do love this state and there are things I would never give up. But remember there are alot of choices out there and some states take car of their people better than others. There are numbers on everything, but then there is real life experience. Not attacking florida though, everyplace has its goods and bads, and my point was being here in Florida does not mean you are blessed with common sense. BTW the reality tv I was refering to was the shows like on spike with cop chases and convenience store robberies and such! Not the ones with the Hotties, no problems there! LOL


Right-to-work is laws that prevent union dues being mandatory for all employees of a trade or company.

I cannot speak for your trade but FL has higher than average national income. It just does. Wages haven't gone up in other states either soo....

Property tax went up because the "value" of your home went up. This was particularly a problem beachside or near the beaches (I see you live in NSB). Has your latest property tax gone down? I'm sure it will this year.

I don't want my state taking care of me or anyone else. That's my job. This value is intrinsic in the nature of Florida and Floridians. Notice that this is one of the last states with no income tax. We like the government to stay out of our business. Sadly, however, newer immigrants are causing these values to be lost.

Your evidence is anecdotal. The numbers paint a broader picture. I don't know when you lived elsewhere and here but you're comparing different times. The specific things you mentioned have changed dramatically here in the last few years due to external forces. It'll all level off. We're already seeing it. All the foreclosures were a necessary correction for the absurd housing market.

And his comment about common sense wasn't meant literally I'm sure. We definitely have our fair share of morons. But then again, they're mostly from the northeast
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