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Originally Posted by irpq11
I guess I am too pationate about some things that are happening to my country. This is unprecedented territory. I get too 'meat and potatoes' about them. lol
I have read all of the rules and try my best to follow them. And I DO respect them, please don't think that I don't. This isn't the place for politics I agree. It's just so unfortunate that politics have become almost synonymous with the auto industry. When was the last time that an 'oversight panel' was apointed to 'monitor' a 'radical restructuring' of the auto industry? Or any industry, with favorable results? Would the stance that, 'The EPA shouldn't be involved in this', be considered taboo? A statement that "we are going to a socialistic form" I understand is couter to what you just said I agree and I appologise, really. But a statement that "This IS a socialist way to do this" is a fact if you look it up. I respectfuly agree to disagree with the part I highlighted. It's like saying Camaro is offering Black, White and Silver. But you can only talk in depth about Silver.
I'm not arguing with you guys. (mods) I appreciate what you guys do in providing us with this awesome forum. This is the first time I have ever done something like this so I didn't even know if I was welcome because I didn't really have anything to tell anyone about but only used the forum to get info and talk to people who are as geeked about the 5th gen as I am. You guys really made me feel welcome. Maybe too welcome. I will DO my best to comply in the future. I come from a place where silence is agreement. But I understand now that this isn't the place for that. If I offended anyone I'm sorry.
This forum rocks. Oh and thank you for reffering to me as PQ. That's what they called me when I was in the military and it was my CB handle for years when I was driving a truck. 
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I too have read the rules and I'm sorry for breaking them on occasion. I'm not here to cause any trouble and am an enthusiast who loves his country and American muscle cars like the Camaro.
irpq11, (PQ) You and I both are passionate about these issues and rightly so. I agree with what you are saying as these are unprecedented times and it surprises me there isn't as many people worried about what the future holds who are car enthusiasts here on this forum. I felt the same way about this current election as most people voted without really knowing or worse, caring about what exactly the future policies of the person they were voting for would mean for the future. I agree with you that by definition, socialism is where things are turning even though that word seems to be something they want to avoid mentioning.
However what I don't understand is where are the people defending the auto czar and panel appointment in this forum? Which leads me to the point I made above in feeling those people just don't care or don't care to know what is going on. (or try and silence talk about the issue, not speaking about you mods, just those who complain behind the scenes) How long is it going to take for people to wake up and care about the freedoms our young men and woman die fighting for around the world for decades now? How long until people realize those freedoms are slowly being taken away? The Camaro we all love and will enjoy in its current form is one of those freedoms that is in jeopardy in the future. If we are not allowed to talk about this in this forum filled with enthusiasts that should care enough and do something about it no matter how small, then where can we go?
I want to hear those that support this auto czar and panel appointment.. I am a good listener and wouldn't get upset at anyone who expresses their opinion on this and other issues. If nobody steps up to the plate, then I can assume either nobody who supports it cares, or nobody here supports it that has taken a read of this thread.. For those that have successfully silenced talk about the stimulus and this issue which was in the bill and helped get this passed in a rush without anybody reading it have already gotten what they wanted. I wonder what the rush was since the bill wasn't signed until today, almost five days later. Now that it has passed, it is important to discuss what all this means for us and our country as it relates to the auto industry and beyond. However for this forum, sticking with the auto industry part would be appropriate I agree. I am just one voice in all of this and as an American am very concerned where all this will lead.
If anyone supports what is going on, please come on in and join in the discussion.