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Old 03-04-2011, 08:27 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65 View Post
Excuse me?

Cruze is priced right in line with its competitors. The 2012 Focus which is just as nice and raises the bar in the segment just as much as Cruze is priced extremely similarly to it. You get what you pay for. Either pony up the money for what is arguably one of the best compacts in the segment, or cheap out and buy a Corolla with cheap materials, shoddy workmanship, and questionable quality. As gas prices get higher and higher, the compact segment isn't going to be looked to as cheap compromises anymore, Americans are going to start demanding compacts with the same amenities found in more expensive cars, and Cruze delivers.

The GMT-900 SUVs are still leading the full-size SUV segment in sales. Fuel efficiency? If you haven't noticed, the competition isn't exactly fuel efficient either.

Volt is the first of a new line of technology. When was the last time you bought a new state-of-the-art computer and paid $200 for it?

Impala doesn't sell well anymore? Methinks you need to do some research. I agree that the W-body is ancient and completely outdated, but it still sells in decent numbers, even if the majority is fleet.

Aveo is done in the US. Sonic is ten times the subcompact Aveo was.
Yes the GMT-900 SUVs are still the top selling vehicles in the segment. Problem the whole segment is dying as a whole because of poor fuel efficiency. Don't get me wrong I love the GMT-900s but its easier to own Crossover SUV these days.

The Volt like it or not is a glorified hybrid. I'm not saying its a bad car but it isn't the answer that everyone was expecting it to be. Understandably the price of the Volt is driven by R&D but that doesn't give ME a reason to pick conventional gasoline sub-compact for thousands less. I don't lease cars, I buy them. In my case the 41k MSRP price of the Volt is way too high. The whole point of this car is to save money on gas. Given that the hybrid powertrains in these cars last generally on 8 years, 100,000 miles where are my savings coming from? I'm better off buying sub-compact, I might spend more money in gas but I'll save thousands over the MSRP of the Volt. Don't get me wrong the same problem applies to the Leaf, Prius, CR-Z and hybrids in between. I guess if looking to lease a Volt might be up your alley.

Seriously are you going to defend the Impala? I don't have the numbers right in front of me but I know a large portion if not most Impala sales go to fleet services. If your think fleet sales are an indicator of a class competitive car, you and I have different concepts of makes a vehicle good. These may be sales but does it mean the Impala is a good car, no? The reason the Impala (W-body) is still around is because the tooling costs have bought and paid for eons ago and GM is making a mint on everyone they sell. Its the same concept as the Panther platform with the Crown Vic, Grand Marquis and Town Car all these years.
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