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Originally Posted by Zabo
Then in the same mindset read the article again. You're welcome in advance for the  and headache. |
No article I've read has had decicive proof that biofuels are more dangerous/emissive than fossil fuels. Yes, in many cases they are less efficient because few "tank-able" liquids offer better energy density than gasoline...but I would agree with your quip -- "So what, they're renewable."
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Originally Posted by 66olds442
I agree completely. My father was one of the reps from Saturn working on the EV project when it was launched. Electric vehicles cause vastly more damage to the environment than a 5th gen Camaro SS. That was the real reason the EV1 was scraped, the batteries were too costly, unreliable and EXTREMELY dangerous to manufacture and dispose of.
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Yep, good point. I remember a study done comparing the Prius to 10+ years of fueling a Hummer H1. The Hummer left a 'greener' impact on the environment.
I'm happy to say battery tech has come a long way, and Li-Ion batteries are more easily recyclable/repurposed than those nasty NiMH's.
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Originally Posted by 8cd03gro
co2 and water vapor? In an absolutely perfect world. In the real world there are far more products of combustion than those two when it comes to gasoline. The combustion is not clean nor is it a total burn. You get nitrogen oxides, hydrocarbons that aren't burned, sulfur oxides from impurities and you even get ozone from NO2 releasing an oxygen atom and it bonding with an o2 molecule. There are plenty of dangerous, carcinogenic products from an internal combustion engine of any kind.
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True. But they are minimal, if not completely non-existant on a few new-age IC deisels. Much less dangerous than sticking a cigarette in your mouth. I guess I took more issue with the metaphor in the article than anything else.
So long as we get our rear in gear on renewable fuels, I don't envision a problem. And I don't think we have a choice...electrics and hydrogen are far too expensive for 75% of people to buy, and the technology isn't practically applicable to larger utility-based vehicles like pickups...