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interesting facts about the OP:
1. drives Oldsmobile, which been dead for many years, obviously because the cars were rebadged crap and nobody bought them...
2. a mini van, no explaination needed....
3. I would be willing to bet that Honda can and has produced a van that has better fuel economy, higher resale, is produced here, and many times greater in quality..
4. you probably didnt noticed there were no fat people in church..
5. resentment and hatred before/after church then coming on here to complain shows that the message being delivered is falling on hard ground...
6. with a name SandDemon, should explain #5
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