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Originally Posted by truth411

IMVHO wasn't the CTS-V target the M5?? Thus the customers looking for the ultimate luxury sport sedan was the criteria. Don't M5 customers place higher priority on performance/ride/handleing than rear shoulder room?

Are you serious? Honestly, I think part of the problem here is that I'm dealing with a forum full of folks the vast majority of whom have never really spent time in one of these cars or with their typical customer. The M5 may have been Cadillac's performance target, but the CTS does not compete with the 5-Series because it's too small. Compared to the CTS the 5-Series is a virtual limousine. There is a reason why, outside of the CTS-V, the engine lineup for the CTS matches up better with the 3-Series than the 5-Series.

Originally Posted by truth411

If rear shoulder room was is the priority than the Taurus SHO is better than both, but that misses the point of what sedans at those price brackets are for.

Then why does the M5 even exists? I say this because you could shove that same V10 into the 3-Series and launch yourself into orbit if size doesn't matter. So why even have the bigger car? And of course, by that logic the AMG S Class is the mystery of the ages. Heck, those losers at Mercedes could have shoved that same turbo 12 into the E Class, saved about 50k in msrp, and gone even faster.

Originally Posted by truth411

Besides (I could be wrong) personaly I have NEVER seen anyone purchasing a 65k+ vehicle and use it to take their family on a 2 day road trip like from texas to New york, they always fly.

I worked in this industry, I dealt with these people..trust me, not only are you wrong I genuinely think you have no understanding of just how wrong you are. Honestly, I think most of you guys have decided who buys these cars and how they drive them by watching The OC or something. The reality you guys are describing simply doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by truth411

At 65k the CTS-V is the better car, from the suspenion setup to the motor. I have been in the rear of a (I am 5ft 10") CTS-V, its fine for daily commutes though I would not want to be there for 8+hrs. But as I said it seems people who by M5s and Benz AMGs dont use them for 12+ hr drives for family trips.

And you have to be on a 12+hr trip for comfort to matter? Seriously? Let me assure you little Ashley is going to bitch her proverbial head off if the new M5 doesn't have as much legroom for the trip to school as the old E55 did. What do you think Uncle Dan is going to be saying on the 30 minute trip to the restaurant downtown? You all are conjuring some imaginary, rich customers for these cars that don't exist.