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Originally Posted by MSG'
Rogue leader, i live in the county, i pay property taxes just like everyone else, I also goto the city and buy things, and pay sales taxes. guess what these taxes pay for these VITAL city services, If my yard was on fire, and I called the fire department and they A. didnt show up or B. showed up to protect my neighbors house, because i forgot to pay some extra fee, which is a bullshit fee in the first place, I would be going to jail on some kind of felony charges, and i am a upstanding, tax paying, never been in trouble, peaceful kind of guy...this is one of the main governments roles is to protect its citizens if they would have showed up when the yard was on fire, the house wouldnt have burned, whats to say it doesnt spread and burn down the neighborhood? if I was the neighbors I would be pissed as well....not to mention its morally WRONG, and if i was one of the firefighters on the scene i would have lost my job because i would have fought it by myself if need be...and yes there was a time when i knew how to operate the truck when i was a volunteer
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Originally Posted by MSG'
scrappy doo, this guy lives in the county and is a home owner, he pays property taxes, and surely he buys things in town, therefor he pays sales taxes. what are property taxes for? I can tell you what mine go towards, and thats schools/roads/fire/police services...this 75 dollar fee is a bogus fee to try and scrape more money from its citzens, and regardless of which county, city, state this person lives in..that is what tax payers money goes toward is for the fire department to put out fires! if this fire department can arrive to protect the neighbor, it can arrive to put out the fire, PERIOD...this is one of the few things that our government provides to its citizens, even if it is his own dumb fault for setting his yard on fire, it is common for people to burn thier own trash/leaves, shit happens, fine him extra, put a lein on his house, but PUT OUT THE FIRE.
So with this arguement if my house gets robbed and my family is held hostage, and he didnt pay his property taxes or was late paying them, ooops sorry we aren't sending the police or swat team
So with this arguement if I went to the hospital because someone hit me head on and i am dying from blood loss and didnt have insurance...sorry no insurance not helping you.
if you were in his shoes and forgot to pay, because other articles says he pays every year, but forgot, you would be screaming for them to put out the fire too...and not sitting here defending the f***ed up system they have in place in tennessee
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Pal you have absolutely no clue how this works. There isn't some big Tax pool that they break up and pay for different services. Fire departments that aren't city owned and run (unlike the FDNY, DCFD, LAFD, etc which are city run) work almost like subcontractors. Their budget is paid through PROPERTY TAXES ONLY. Part of everyones property taxes is a fire tax. The department covers the area of their district that is covered by their taxes. Unless a mutual aid agreement is in place between departments, they do not serve adjoining districts. Or an agreement such as the homeowners in this persons area were in.
In this particular area this fire department covers their county or city. These people live OUTSIDE THE CITY/COUNTY LIMITS in another county or city which means their property taxes do not pay the FD budget. Also their area does not have a fire department so the FD in the adjoining areas offer fire protection service for a fee, basically a fire tax paid directly to the department. Its not a bullshit extra fee. They pay LESS TAXES because they live outside of the district!
The fundamental purpose of government is the maintenance of basic security and public order, and yes to protect its citizens from threats. Maybe if you read the article you'd know the homeowner and residents were not threatened they were OUTSIDE the house. Public safety was not threatened, the FD was there, protecting the property surrounding the fire. It wasn't going to spread and burn down the neighborhood. It takes a LOT of perfect circumstances for something like that to happen and a regular house fire generally will not cook the neighborhood 99% of the time.
You tout having "operated the truck" a some kind of validation to your argument but you will get no sympathy from me. I'm not gonna get in a pissing contest here with you but you obviously didn't have enough experience when you were there to know how every aspect of running a fire department works, or how a fire behaves. You would also understand that public safety such as EMS or Police protection to PERSONAL INJURY is far different than protection of PROPERTY and this would not have happened if someones LIFE was at stake.