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Originally Posted by CuteQueen
People need to have compassion! What if the family was going through a hard time and could not afford $75 dollars for the bill. Someone could have got hurt and now a family is without a home they should have take them up on their offer to pay the bill after
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Your anger may be blinding you a bit.
I said I would put it out. BUT I agree with the decision.
You gonna FORCE a group of people to pay for another group?
I see you would, but I don't agree with it.
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Originally Posted by MSG'
i find this absolutely rediculous and the fact that you all are defending the system is even more laughable. Firefighters show up, put the fire out, this pisses me off so much, one of the FEW responsiblities that the government has is to protect its citizens/personal property when it is out of your control, earthquakes, tornado's, hurricanes, FIRE! Its a natural diasasiter (locally small one) These actions are criminal for the ones in charge making the decision, and criminal negligence on the firefighters part. (good simaritian laws) In the military if you follow an order that you feel in unlawful, you will be punished, i can site plenty of examples. The guy didn't pay, ok, put the fire out, charge him 5k after the fact. I used to be a volunteer firefighter, we goto a fire, we put it out, PERIOD. If any one of you who are saying, oh to-bad so-sad, thats what he gets blah blah blah, ROLE REVERSAL, you all would be doing the same thing this guy was doing...I agree with being personal responsiblity, more independance etc etc. BUT, fire/police/military protection is one big reason why we have a GOVERNMENT...sorry for the bad spelling and punctuation, but this article, wow very angry.
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I'm assuming you read their local constitution?
Or maybe you believe the Federal one should be applied here?
And don't give me that 'Role Reversal' thing. I said earlier, I'd want help, I'd accept help, I'd be greatful for help. I WOULDN'T BLAME ANYONE BUT MYSELF.
I find it equaly ridiculous that some believe that people should be allowed to circumvent the set rules with their own. At the obvious expense of others. Thievery if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by motorhead
 + I am in full agreement with you, and it is really sad to me that many people on this forum agree with letting it burn. It makes me wonder if there is anybody left in this country with any commonsense and morals. 
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No their isn't. But if you punch me in the face, and I forgive you, I'm probably not gonna hang with you anymore. If you punch me again, then it's my own damn fault.
And I'm not calling this guy an idiot, or being condecending in any way toward him. I'm just saying he should accept the choice he made. Again, I'd have helped him put out the fire. ANd would help him moving ahead. But he was not wronged here.
Under your idea, I can stop supporting everyone. Keep ALL of my money except for my immediate utilities and obligations and if something goes wrong, I can expect someone to come to my aid.
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Originally Posted by motorhead
Well then just let them all burn. At least I'm coming up with a suggestion that keeps the fire from getting out of control and spreading to someone's home or kills someone. That's why it's their moral duty to put it out and then worry about getting paid. It's no different than someone going to a hospital that doesn't have insurance in an emergency. They don't let them lay there and die.
I know if I would have been the guy next door who paid my $75 dollars and the fire spread to my house ,when they could have put it out before that happen, it would have cost the fire dept a lot more than $75 in law suits.
They just got lucky that it didn't. What about the next time?
This is an insane conversation with insane people. I'm done with it. Good bye.
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NOT their lawful obligation.
And goodbye. I'm glad you are not an influential decision maker for my community.