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Originally Posted by OverZeaLouS
The weight difference between the L99 SS and the R/T is ony about 175 pounds.
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Both cars are overweight and poorly designed from the start. They both chose a 'form over function' design and didn't care that the cost effective platform to reach those looks was a bad performance choice. They only cared what the car looked like in order to get the lust sales.
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Originally Posted by ViperTomcat
That sells 10,000 units a month and is dominating the police market..how is GM and Ford doing in the police sales?...oh wait..
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Ford dominated all police sales for years with the Crown Victoria. How were Chrysler's police sales then?...oh wait..
It is anyones guess as to which of the 3 police cars they will choose in the future. Cost is a big deterrent in them picking the Charger for widespread use.
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And is being completely refreshed for 2011 and was the most awarded new car in history.
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Refreshed into the same thing. It is rental car fodder along with the Charger and most other Chrysler products.
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The town and country is boring. Minivans are meant for safety and hauling kids, not excitement.
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True.
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Keep your head in the sand.
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You dismiss all of Chrysler's faults and look at them from the mind of an owner-enthusiast. Chrysler overall is on its deathbed even after the bailout. They have not changed their thinking or product line enough to warrant a revival. Future sales will be poor, Fiat will bail on their partnership and they will be liquidated.
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Except the fact that their sales are trending upwards and their overall qualities scores are going up.
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Sales are flat and an unhealthy portion of sales are fleet sales. They are still far below industry average in quality.
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except for my 99 Dodge Durango that was still going strong at 143,000 miles and my friends 03 Cummins Turbo Diesel truck at 189,000 miles . Chrysler is the joke of america what the hell is GM then?
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Your personal experience means nothing. It is a fact that Chrysler products are more unreliable than industry average. Comparing them an unrelated entity(in this case, GM) is a typical red herring deflection move when you have no factual ground to stand on.
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That didnt keep GM from needing tens of billions of dollars of bailouts and being majority owned by the US government.
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Yes. GM should have been liquidated as well. Even after the legally questionable bailouts, GM has a better chance at survival than Chrysler does.
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Yes, because you lack the business and economic sense that a Goldfish has.
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Survival of the fittest. Chrysler and GM are still far from fit. They deserve to be in whatever hole they dug.
TLDR - Chrysler makes poor products and doesn't deserve to be in business anymore.