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Originally Posted by War Eagle
You also have to watch the fine print or lack of. Some Dealers charge up to $750 Dealer Doc fees, while some are as low as $150. This is a hidden mark up. On my last new car I bought the end of Nov. the Doc fee was $579 but I negotiated it down to $379 plus free delivery.
Steve
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Document fees are 100% dealer profit and you should be able to get out of them altogether if you will just hold your ground in the finance department. Most dealers wait to spring this on you right before you sign for the car knowing full well 99.9% of buyers will not walk out on the deal for a few hundred dollars. I've walked away from at least 3 deals, in the finance office, due to "doc fees". In each case, the dealer agreed not to charge me the fee. You have to remember, the dealer has time and money tied up in the deal too, and they don't want to walk away from a sure sale either.
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Originally Posted by str8himalaya
I might as well get in on this too. Here is my .02. The GT500 is a nice looking car, don't think it is as aggressive looking as the camaro, but is good for a mustang to say the least. Here what i don't get...why are we comparing a (most likely after all markups) a 50k+ car to a 31k car? I mean a base SS costs you 31k, and we are just talking performance right now. 19k is a lot, i can go buy a new silverado for that, or a used GTO. lol. I mean thats a lot of money to just ignore. Even if you did get a GT500 for 45k its still 14k difference. Wow, i just can't ignore that fact in this arguement. You can get a used z06 that would probably blow the doors off a gt500 for that money. Just a thought though. Of course a car that is 10k+ more is going to perform better, duh. Around the track it probably won't, which is sad, but in a straight line, have fun. But like was said, dollar for dollar, a camaro can be faster than a GT500. Put a cap on it, and i think the camaro would still win.  |
All the other drivel aside, why do so many people quote the base price (employee base price, at that) of a 2SS Camaro [$30,738.45] and then use the fully loaded MSRP for the GT500 when making comparisons?
Here is the reality, based on MSRP of a fully-optioned car from each camp (using Edmunds.com):
A fully optioned GT500 has an MSRP of $51,575
A fully optioned 2SS has an MSRP of $39,595
That is not a $19K difference, it's $11,980. Yes, that is still a pretty big gap in price, nobody can argue that, but please, let's dispense with the idea that the MSRP on a 2SS is going to be $31K.