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Old 09-10-2010, 12:19 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by bpmurr View Post
So using the OP's logic we should all buy Ford's since they have the highest amount of American works per car sold.
No, that wasn't my "logic", that was your interpretation of what I said. You buy what ever you want to buy. Ultimately, it is the writer's (my) responsibility to accurately communicate his point to the reader, but as we all know, the Internet is a free-for-all where some people see only what they want to see, hear only what they want to hear, and conclude only what they want to conclude.

At the risk of becoming redundant, what was my point in my OP? Simply put; A Canadian built Camaro, a Mexican built Ford, or a Michigan built Cadillac, will generate more American jobs than a Korean built Hyundai, an Ohio built Honda, or a Kia assembled in Alabama. The job numbers aren't even close, i.e., GM, Ford, and Chrysler employ more Americans per car produced, than the foreign manufacturers employ per car produced.

There is nothing else said or implied in that. Now, some here have taken it and ran in every possible direction with it. It seems we all love to soapbox to the point of pontification.

There was the post that interpreted my OP had a thinly "veiled" hidden agenda of protectionism...or patriotism, or whatever, Really? I thought I clearly excluded those motives from the start? Or the post that claimed that I was a dinosaur and I was "ignorant" to the fact that the auto business is now global and he proceeded to school me. How would he know of my knowledge of the global economy and auto industry? In his defense; unlike others, I don't include my education level and occupation in my signature and I don't wear my MBTI Personality Type like a badge. Nor do I feel compelled to warn others that I just might "Jack your thread".

To the poster that dismissed manufacturing as being "last century" and claimed that service industry jobs were more "noble" and sophisticated. I guess you might say that if your view of today's auto manufacturing process is last century. Are you aware of how the modern automobile and it's supply chain is R&D'ed, designed, engineered and assembled? We are taking about an automated robotic manufacturing process that supports highly skilled technical jobs....they aren't Henry Ford's assembly lines. Do you know the ratio of manual labor hours to technical and engineering labor hours in the production of today's automobile? I think not. By the way, I think "noble" is better suited for describing an educator teaching our children, a nurse, doctor, health care professional, a policeman/fireman, a journeyman tradesman training an apprentice, or a soldier....not someone sitting in an office cubical computing someone's taxes.

Someone has to tell me what is the relevance of post #50 to this discussion? When I questioned its appropriateness, I was reminded that this was a political discussion from the start. No, it was not, and that post is not relevant political commentary. That was partisan bull sh*t. It doesn't belong in this thread and you know it. As one of you said, "Call a spade, a spade".

In my post in another thread, I chided the OP because he bought a Hyundai Genesis because he was experiencing some employment difficulty. I saw irony in that, but I was wrong to demean him. I regret those remarks, and that certainly influenced your take on my OP in this thread. I sent him a PM and said I was wrong to publicly ridicule him. I offered an explanation, my sincere apology, my regrets, and he has graciously accepted.

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