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Old 09-02-2010, 11:47 PM   #6
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I deal with many Japanese expats on a daily basis, as well I have experience with other Japanese companies through my family as well. I'm not Japanese, but Italian-American, but I still take offense to you stereotyping these people based on some internal memos on a perceived safety issue that got blown out of proportion. EVERY company does that. Ford and GM both did it, read up on this before commenting. I'm NOT a Toyota fan by any means, but I am a fan of fairness and how they were blackballed was unfair, as much as I wanted to see it happen.
I really don't care. Toyota has no excuse for what they did, and they should pay for it dearly.

The throttle wasn't held open except in the case of some sticky floormats which they acknowledged. The sticking throttle in many cases wasn't, do some google searches you can see a more detailed explanation, but the basic gist is there really wasn't a problem with sticky accelerators, it was a problem with the floormats and widespread group panic mentality. The same group panic that drove SUV prices into the toilet as soon as gas hit 5 bucks a gallon last year. [/QUOTE]

It had nothing to do with the floormats. Cars WITHOUT floor mats were experiencing unintended acceleration. Its all been well documented. Many victims reported the throttle pedal being at the top, not depressed at all, and the car still trying to accelerate. It was a glitch in the PCM, which was addressed when the cars were reflashed during the recall.

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And those shitty undersized brakes are the same as the brakes most average cars in America have. There has been nothing ever shown that the brakes on their boring beige cars are any worse than the brakes on every other brands boring beige car, and are perfectly fine for normal road use.
No, they are not. I work in the automotive industry and I see what all kinds of various makes of vehicles are equipped with for braking duties. The Japanese pinch pennies when it comes to things comsumers don't phyisically see, and brakes are no exception. How else do you explain $40,000 Lexuses and Acuras that still use ancient single piston cast iron calipers with small rotors?? They are heavy, rust easily, and don't stop well at all. Yet they keep using them, because they are cheap. The Honda Fit has such poor brakes that it gets outstopped from 70MPH by a Ford F-150 Supercrew King Ranch. Look at a $40,000 Cadillac or Lincoln, and you'll find dual piston aluminum calipers with properly sized rotors. Many if these calipers are made by PBR of Australia. Even GM full size trucks have PBR dual piston aluminum rear calipers.
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