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Originally Posted by ViperTomcat
What I am saying is that when I see 420 RWHP on just an intake and tune alone..500 RWHP doesnt seem that far away. Especially when you factor in long tube headers, offroad mid/x pipes, full, free flowing exhaust, the revised intake manifold, intake, throttle body and tune? Do you really think picking up 80 RWHP is out of the realm of possibilities with that combo?
I didnt say it WILL, I said I wouldnt be shocked. After seeing a stock automatic Mustang run 12.5 at over 115 MPH I have had to revise what I thought was "likely" or "possible".
And I say here because I enjoy conversation. 80% of the people I talk to here are incredibly kind and enjoyable to talk to. However, lately the tide has been turning it seems.
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Yes...80 rwhp is impossible for just adding exhaust and intake manifold and throttle body. The car probably doesnt even need an intake or throttle body in the first place with stock displacement and cams being N/A. I am sure they are plenty sufficient. The LS3 gains no power on stock cam profile when switching to a larger throttle body and or intake manifold (fast 102 for reference is showing squat). Their is no need for it...the motor is already pushing about as much air as it can. Trying to push more (wihtout cam change)will just cause too much of a loss in velocity etc etc. EVEN IF the car needs all these things...no it will not gain another 80rwhp from them and it will not be 500rwhp...not on this planet not ever. Like I said I doubt it will ever touch 500rwhp with a cam change.
Yes I do think it is entirely 110% impossible for the car to ever hit 500rwhp with bolt ons. I have seen other dynos with more mods than just intake and tune dyno less than 420rwhp.That 420rwhp was the highest I have ever seen. It is definitely not the norm. You do realize when I had my car dynoed I seen a variance of almost 15hp between pulls when nothing had changed?
Long tubes arent showing as good of gains as the ls3 because the 5.0 comes with mid length headers from the factory. Both cars with full bolt ons are showing 420-440rwhp on average. No I dont have a link but I have seen about 5 mustang guys post they are seeing around 430rwhp with long tubes....I havent looked for myself.
To just pick out the highest freak dyno and make some wild educated guess by stacking on parts is crazy.
I will give you my camaro if the 5.0 ever hits 500rwhp with bolt ons.