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Originally Posted by jrc1122
To say the Government doesn't effect what cars that Chevy (or any other company for that matter) builds, Is to refuse to logically break down the specific roles of the EPA and NHTSA
A little known Bureaucracy called the EPA. They put stricter and stricter rules on emissions, and mpg. And that is from the past two administrations for sure.
Do you think Chevy doesn't realize that nearly every Camaro owner is going to eliminate the skip shift feature.. So why add it? Just for the sake of making the car more expensive.. Nope.. They are trying to meet government regulations for MPG and keep the customers from having to pay a special gas guzzler tax.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble, but seriously, people really need to open their eyes. There is TONS of government intrusion in the auto industry.
Some over site is probably a good thing, but I am a firm believer in the consumer. I think if the EPA and SAFETY ratings weren't mandated by the Government that ultimately the consumer would still demand it from the manufacturer - to the level they fill is necessary to keep them safe, reliable, and a decent mpg.
Example if Chevy makes a Sports car, that is horribly unsafe, and gets 6mpg. And Ford, makes an equally impressive performing car that is much safer, and gets 15mpg.. Which am I going to choose.. Then competition factor kicks in. They will then build cars based off what the people want, not what the government body demands they build.
If the demand for 40mpg 150hp hybrids is truly there (without government tax credits, and loans to help build the facilities, etc) Then that is what will be built.
There are Billions of people on this planet. There is room for competition and all sizes and types of cars.
I've shared my thoughts... continue on combating each other .... 
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I agree with a lot of your points. Granted I haven't read the entire thread, but these guys are mainly arguing the supposed fact that the Government is the ones calling the shots in GM's boardrooms. Which I highly doubt because the Z28 wouldn't make it past stage 1, which is the, "This is a crazy Idea" stage. It would get laughed out of the room before it was ever a gleam in our eyes.

So, yes, the Government is controlling GM, just as they are controlling everybody else like Ford and Chrysler. But these guys are taking it a bit too far IMO. But I make no claim to be an expert. I'm just a grunt here.

GM is going to do fine, and I would more than willing buy their stock if I had some spare cash lying around.
And don't even start with the GM loyalty thing with me. I'm not exactly a good candidate for such a title.
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Originally Posted by Berean
Feel free to shoot me a PM any time you like, and if it's easy to do, then I'm sure the moderators will refrain from taking sides in a future political discussion.
And no, I won't be buying any GM stock. As a taxpayer, and Camaro buyer, I've invested enough money in the company.
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I think you and I invested a hell of a lot more in other companies during the "bailout era" that IMO, didn't deserve it. GM was nothing compared to them. They just made headlines more because of the News.
EDIT: I also love how the mods have kept this thread alive.

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