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Originally Posted by 1bad65
Have I broken any of the TOS terms I agreed to? I'm being mature and rational in this debate, which imo, is nowhere near being uncivil.
Here are two:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/assets/doc...Assessment.pdf
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10212977-48.html
And this quote from my 2nd link really made me laugh: "We can't make money on the first Volts," said Troy Clarke, president of GM's North American operations. "But as we get a chance to change the generations of technology, we'll lose less and less."
Also, you just proved my assertion yourself:
And as my link says, Mr Clarke of GM says the Volt will just lose "less and less" long-term. Notice he never says he expects profit from the Volt.
Not according to the President of GM's North American operations.
Again proving one of my points.  I said the Camaro makes GM money, and that's another fact I got right. But again, GM themselves never expects the Volt to be profitable, only to lose "less and less" money as time goes by. |
OK.
Now I'm sure you are being a smart ass. And yes, stirring the pot, being sarcastic, instigating arguments, can and will get you banned from C5. We consider it trolling. FWIW.
I never said you were wrong. I just said you asked for facts and you hadn't, to that point, provided any. But was asking others to provide them to support their argument. My original point was that goes both ways. Not a statement of right or wrong.
I've never disputed your point and, as you sarcastically pointed out, I agreed with you.
To be clear, all I'm saying, that you may not agree with, is there is more to gain then dollars on a car like this. I also agree to disagree with you that the Volt will eventually make money... My opinion is that it will. There are some things that will have to fall into place like an advancement in the batteries or some more tax incentives for electric cars. But I do also agree that day is way out there.
GM's bottom line is obviously affected by many sources of revenue. I would hope, that the initial losses/cost on the volt is being offset by the profitability of the other vehicles that GM sells. Most business are comfortable with taking a loss in one area if it benefits the whole company and makes the whole company more profitable. It's risky but it can be a huge payoff in the long term.
That is all I'm saying. You don't have to agree with me. All I'm really asking of you is to respect mine, and other's opinions, whether they are based on verifiable facts or not.