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Old 12-12-2008, 11:03 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by fbodfather View Post
slow down -

While I do not agree with the Union on many issues - they've agreed to take many concessions -- but a few Senators wanted it NOW...........and for once I agree with Ron Gettelfinger.........this has to involve a lot of paycuts and such...........

Let me ask you something:

Why is it that we would want to cut the paychecks for American Workers -- when FOREIGN governments close their markets to us using tarriffs and any number of ways to keep us out of their markets?

Why would you want to contribute to the paychecks of, oh - say the KOREANS-- what have THEY done for us lately?

Remember - the paychecks that go to - oh......say, Lordstown, Ohio Assembly workers --- put money into the local economy in Ohio - -pay for trips to places like Disneyworld - purchase goods and services from many other Americans -- THINK ABOUT IT!

We have SENATORS saying that the Big Three are 'bloated' and are 'incompetent' --

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, SENATOR SHELBY -- YOU AND YOUR COHORTS HAVE PUT THIS COUNTRY INTO TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEBT -- YOU GAVE -- YES gave -- NOT loaned - GAVE -- DIAMLER AND HONDA AND HYUNDAI NEARLY A BILLION DOLLARS TO BUILD IN YOUR STATE - -
YOU PAY ILLEGAL ALIENNS WELFARE BENEFITS -- YOU SPEND HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF PORKBARREL SPENDING - AND YOU VOTE YOURSELVES PAY RAISES AND HAVE THE WORLD'S BEST BENEFITS AND RETIREMENT PACKAGES -- AND YOU SAY THAT THE BIG THREE ARE BLOATED AND THAT NO ONE WANTS THEIR CARS AND TRUCKS???????

IF EVERYONE ON THIS SITE IS NOT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY INCENSED AT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS - THEN I GIVE THIS COUNTRY LESS THAN 10 YEARS BEFORE WE IMPLODE UPON OURSELVES.................

As you have a point.

I do not think anyone want the American auto worker to take a paycut. They want the UAW to take a cut. I believe the American Auto Worker should draw in a very reasonable income. Just shave off the dues it pays to the UAW so the pay per hour to that employee is not inflated. Shave off some of the benefits and turn the company profitable again. Help it be competitive in the market.

Let's face it. Unions have negotiated (strong armed at times) to get some benefits which put a huge strain on companies in this market. Release companies from these responsibilities as other companies started to do 30 years ago. The unions are the ones in control of this negotiation because union workers pay for them to be. Well, the unions have done a great job don't you think? (NOT!)

I agree with you...Congress is out of control, and has been for a long time. I agree the southern states pay to much money for foreign businesses in this contry. I also agree they could have bent just slightly to help this country out at a time of great dispair. I am republican, and will most likely re-evaluate my position within this near future. My own party makes me hang my head in shame. They are thinking of their own political stances on wether they were involved in the decision process and how they can teach the other side of the room a lesson. They are not thinking of what is best for the country.

GM should declare bankruptcy...I will still by my car and future American autos. When they go bankrupt the should get rid of the UAW. The best of the best auto worker will survive. Poor performers will go find what they like to become better employees and help themselves live their lives.
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