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Originally Posted by MerF
Easy solution for the Middle-east. Let the leash off Israel. They'll handle business, and handle it very well, I'm convinced.
I'm all about isolationism these days.
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or do what we did to Palestine when they invaded Israel, one of our generals captured ~50 Palestinians. he then told his troops to dip their bullets in pigs blood, then they killed all but one of the enemy troops and left the one to go back and tell the tale that the US WAS NOT MESSING AROUND. the same way in WWII, we didnt drop 1000 bombs, we didnt drop 100 bombs, we dropped 2 bombs. and we sent the message that we are not to be taken lightly. look at Iran, they are doing whatever the Fudge they want, cus they know we wont do anything unless they directly attack us. all we are doing right now is tryin to puff our chest. but no one is falling for it now.
as far as isolationism...the US can't support itself completely, we have to make everyone happy.
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Originally Posted by TAG UR IT
I think his heart is in the right place. The terrorists will NEVER stop. For those who just don't get it....THE WAR WILL NEVER BE OVER. THEY HATE US AND WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET TO US TO KILL US.
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Tag, you are absolutely right. we are fighting a war on TERROR.
BOOOO! Are you terrified? are you at war with me now? the one thing I want to know is how after Sept 11, we wait 3 months to attack, then we go to Afghanland, then slowly merge into Iraq, then its all about Saddam. what the hell? I thought it was Al Queda and Osama yo mamma who attacked us on Sept 11. Here's a thought, instead of going after everyone who
might be connected some way to Al Queda, go for the head. Sever the head and the body shall die. why after the "big hunt for Osama", did we just drop it in the minds of america and switch to the focus on Saddam?
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Originally Posted by Jak
As for the war in Iraq. The thing that pisses me off is that everyone seems to think that war is like tv, you click a channel and "poof" it's over. Wars can't be won over night, they take time. And don't forget, we're fighting a people that have no respect for human life, I mean how could they, when they strap bombs into little kids, women, themselves and send them into markets to kill as many innocent people as they can.
And personally, I'd much rather have the fighting going on over there in the streets of bagdad then here in our streets. Though, don't get me wrong, it'd be stupid to think that it's not gonna happen here.With our borders wide open, it bound to happen eventually.
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some wars can be won quickly, but keep in mind that by keeping this war going, how many companies are benefitting from making parts and supplies for the war effort. as far as having fighting in our streets, we already have that between ourselves as americans. i dont think it will come to our military having to fight hand to hand over here tho. and as far as respect for human life, they believe that by doing what they are doing, they will be secured a place with allah, and they are willing to do everything it takes to win whereas the US is not willing to put the big foot down (its more like the big toe now)
and just so you all know, I have been to Iraq and Afghanistan. (The latter a few more times than I wanted) while in Iraq, I was on convoy duty for about half of it while also performing aircraft maint between the two bases I was at while there, I also had to do door to door sweeps of whole towns, ive seen my friends die right in front of me. its not something I wish for anyone to have to do. I think we are there for the wrong reasons completely. I have seen what we are doing over there, its not always pretty.
as for the war in general, the US is too soft. in a war, you are going to have innocent civilians killed. if not, then it would just be a military action...*cough*like vietnam*cough*... I could honestly care less if we turned Iraq into a glass lake and put a sign up that said "slippery when wet" and made Afghanistan into a crystal mountain palace that would keep the middle east lit at night for the next 30 yrs.
Im not saying that we should pull our troops out immediately, whats to say that it will make any difference either way? if we pull out now, they get time alone to plot against us, if we stay, we piss them off more. we should have never gone back to Iraq after dumbya's daddy went there for the oil. (and if you dont believe me about that, listen to this, at the base gas stations, the gas was $1.00 per gal.)