[Angrybird 12]

I have found talking to owners of Hondas and Toyotas and then listening to them talk among themselves (without them knowing I am listening) they have more problems than they tell us.( and probably Consumer Reports also)... most owners will swear they have never had a problem with their cars, because they don't want people that own american cars to know that they got a lemon....

If they are so reliable why do I see Honda and Toyota dealersip courtesy cars and shuttle vans running around all over the place with big signs on them? Don't they know that lets us american car owners know that they have problems too?