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Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23
The Scotty situation... that was his decision to make. If he feels he can't be here as anything more than a car salesman, then that is his call. There have been plenty of other members that have been "corrected"  and they have stayed and been able to continue on posting without violating the rules because they are here for the Camaro above all else.
Like Tag Ur It said, this place is like a second home for a lot of us. Literally, like a second home. There have been stories about relationships on the brink of failure due to people being on this site so much. (some of those stories are very... very true). When I say this place is like a second home, I mean it. I'm a member on nearly every other camaro forum (and many other types of forums as well) out there. But none of which do I feel like I do with this one. You guys are our extended family. Some of us have been here nearly since the site's conception. We've been thru the ups and downs, the mustang trolls, the spammers, the overzealous vendors, the speculation, the enjoyment that is the 5th gen Camaro.
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Being one of the first dealers on here back in 2008, often nearly 24/7, providing information as soon as I had it on the upcoming pre-ordering, Answering questions from people on ordering, some who weren't ordering from me while ordering was going on, and helping several people get parts, or other issues with their cars once they had them, and others running into problems in the ordering process......I think you have me mixed up with another dealer, because I was one of the few doing MORE than selling cars. When people find numerous threads discussing this, someone will more than likely contact me to buy a car, and that simply is not allowed under your rules, since I'm not lining any pockets. I can't just hang out like you say...someone will want to do business, and I'll have to not even comment on those requests. So it it obvious I was here for Camaro above sales. I'm proud to see a few others finally learning by example lately, because it is more than just posting your cars for sale in the CAMARO'S BY DEALER section.
I don't have an issue with the "past" that seems to be brought up. I received a three day ban for posting a url to a camaro ordering tracking site which I had nothing to so with. My notification said "you have been warned not to post that site", but I guess I was included in with the group that does run it, so it was a shared / implied ban. (others warning applied to me...)
The second past item is this site giving a dealer an exclusive to check customer orders....
including those orders that could be mine. I was one of the first to check orders via email and PM as far back as April 2009, before a dealer checking them now was even here. GM had asked me to stop. Eventually, the VIZ started doing it and "paypal" was involved. I was told not to post in the order tracking thread because you want one dealer doing it....easier to police, you say...and that GM wants it that way...I couldn't find anyone at GM that said that, and in fact, was told by John Fitzpatrick all dealers are free to do so, on any site. Then I was told that it actually brings up potential franchise contract violations, in which one dealer could in turn, sue another dealer for "interfering" with that other dealers customer. Which I guess makes sense, because if you have only one dealer doing it, then only one could suffer issues as a result of action taken by other dealers. Any time I tried to discuss this, I got the "quit arguing, it's not up for discussion, any more comments and BAN!" response.... Can you see why I might be a little timid to hand over some sponsor money? When you are the most expensive site on the web for a sponsorship, trust will need to be a two way street.
Like I said in an earlier post, I'm not gone....Just transparent. Thanks.