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Originally Posted by fielderLS3

How committed is Toyota to those workers? Tell us what happened to that plant once Toyota took sole possession of it during the GM bankruptcy?



I have no problem with GM investing in China to sell in China. That's a net income of money into the US (and is exactly what the Japanese are doing to our own market. However, I will NEVER buy any car from a foreign brand built anywhere, nor will I ever buy an American branded car built outside if N. America.





You somehow think you can defend the rule buy which Toyota does business by finding cases of the exception in which GM does the same thing, and then bash GM of occasionally doing the things that you defend Toyota for always doing. GM does build some stuff in China and Korea (I wouldn't buy any of it by the way), and Toyota does build some stuff inside the US, but across the whole product line, GM builds more in the US.

Rather than defending the global nature of the car business (which I recognize exists) you seem to merely have the classic knee-jerk reaction of America=inferior in all cases for all reasons. (Toyota's throttle problem was because an American company supplied the part, really?) And while I by no means defend the bailout (I'm very much against it) to pretend that the Japanese government hasn't been subsidizing Toyota in various way for years is very disingenuous. I'm not defending GM. I'm merely pointing out how illogical it is to use GM's business as an example of why Toyota should get a pass for the way they do business. Two wrongs never make a right.



This thread has been very educational. Username, you were more right that you knew when you posted that, and the other posts to this thread have proven it. Toyota's marketing team is beyond the absolute best. Though there has not been a quality gap for years, and despite years of recalls, years of selling people rolling coffins, and years of covering it all up, more people than ever are giving them a pass, buying and defending their Toyotas as if they were built by some divine providence, and not by the imperfect hands of man. Toyota's marketers have done nothing less than take a reputation of Toyota superiority and GM inferiority out of the 1970s (deserved at the time I admit), and turn it into a quasi-religion.

Not to seem cocky, but I doubt that.